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<blockquote data-quote="Chimera" data-source="post: 2340948" data-attributes="member: 2002"><p>Over the course of my gaming career, I've run into a number of individuals who fit a certain pattern. It was less obvious in previous versions of the game, moreso with 3e actions.</p><p></p><p>Years back, I played with a guy who would do things like "I move here, cast my spell" (wait for resolution) "Ok, now I'm moving over here (a long distance away) and searching these wagons. What do I find?". I explained to him that he could only move and cast the spell within the round. He insisted that he was moving over and searching the wagons. Ok, then you're doing that instead of casting the spell? No, I'm doing it after the spell. Round and around we went, trying to explain to the guy that he couldn't do all of that in one round, with him getting hot because he WAS searching the wagon! Heck, on the second round, he yelled at me that he had wasted a lot of time searching the wagon and wasn't finding anything YET!</p><p></p><p>The guy wasn't a beginner either, and he DM'd his own game where I'm quite certain that he would never allow anyone else to get away with it. But he kept doing it in my game.</p><p></p><p>In the years before and since, I've run into a couple of other individuals who do the same. Most often it is a beginner who simply doesn't know how much they can do in one round, but sometimes it is someone who should know better.</p><p></p><p>In the last session of one of my current games, one of the players attempted to do FIVE actions in one round. When told that the PC could only do the first two, the player insisted that, at the very least, the third was also being done. Now I know for a fact that this is not a beginner, that the person has played for several years.</p><p></p><p>Is there an official term for this kind of player, other than simple derogatory terms like "jerk" or "cheater"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chimera, post: 2340948, member: 2002"] Over the course of my gaming career, I've run into a number of individuals who fit a certain pattern. It was less obvious in previous versions of the game, moreso with 3e actions. Years back, I played with a guy who would do things like "I move here, cast my spell" (wait for resolution) "Ok, now I'm moving over here (a long distance away) and searching these wagons. What do I find?". I explained to him that he could only move and cast the spell within the round. He insisted that he was moving over and searching the wagons. Ok, then you're doing that instead of casting the spell? No, I'm doing it after the spell. Round and around we went, trying to explain to the guy that he couldn't do all of that in one round, with him getting hot because he WAS searching the wagon! Heck, on the second round, he yelled at me that he had wasted a lot of time searching the wagon and wasn't finding anything YET! The guy wasn't a beginner either, and he DM'd his own game where I'm quite certain that he would never allow anyone else to get away with it. But he kept doing it in my game. In the years before and since, I've run into a couple of other individuals who do the same. Most often it is a beginner who simply doesn't know how much they can do in one round, but sometimes it is someone who should know better. In the last session of one of my current games, one of the players attempted to do FIVE actions in one round. When told that the PC could only do the first two, the player insisted that, at the very least, the third was also being done. Now I know for a fact that this is not a beginner, that the person has played for several years. Is there an official term for this kind of player, other than simple derogatory terms like "jerk" or "cheater"? [/QUOTE]
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