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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8254392" data-attributes="member: 6704184">My gnome in my friend’s campaign worships place spirits, ancestors, and the Tuatha, who are the ancient Fey beings who once ruled over the great northern Fey kingdom and are now spirit beings that live in the Ethereal like any spirit (there are very few planes, and the Feywild is places in the world). He considers none of them gods. His ancestor who fought a balor to protect her clan when the mountain spat fire and fiends 1500 years ago was not divine, and is now simply memory and spiritual will, to be honored and venerated and made offerings to.He doesn’t believe that the Zelesian God exists, though their Angels certainly do, nor the archetypal (Commedia dell'arte style) masked gods of the Veneliese. The spirits I give offerings to by leaving cups of milk and honey as part of a generation ritual in potted plants outside my apartment aren’t gods. Why would I call them such? Yet I pray to them and give offerings and rituals of veneration, which I genuinely believe in. As someone who practices a faith that includes Thor, this is easy to me. One is theist, the other is atheistic, for a start. If I believed that Thor is an archetype that some folks venerate in order to center themselves on a set of principles, or that he exists but is simply a trans dimensional alien with hyper advanced technology that ancient people encountered and mistook for something more than that, that is very distinct from believing that Thor makes the storm come by divine will, but also that Thor is a dumb jerk and no one should worship him. Not really. How does he control the weather? In D&D terms, if he is casting high level spells and using powerful magic items, that’s just a Wizard with access to 12th level spells.If he makes the storm come by his will, because he is the storm, that’s a god.In terms of my own game, gods can change the laws of the universe, because their Will is what defines those rules.</blockquote>

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