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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8254405" data-attributes="member: 6779196">This still seems semantic to me. If the character doesn’t want to call the things he worships “gods,” that’s fine, but if it quacks like a duck...Sure, he follows his own belief system. I don’t think either flat-earth atheist or nay-theist would be an appropriate description for him. I mean, unless the Zelesian God falsifiably exists and this character disbelieves in them despite the evidence.Well, ok, but now we’re getting into real-life faith, which is rather different since in real life (unlike in many D&D settings) Gods can’t be falsifiably proven to exist.Ahh, but veneration is not the same thing as worship.And this hypothetical person worships the alien?He seems like a rather intense entity to work with, from what I’ve heard.So, is a storm elemental a god? I’m trying to understand where one draws the line between “god” and “not god” in concrete, practical terms. Casting spells and making things happen by one’s will seem, in practical terms, to have little to no distinction. Being the storm certainly seems  practically different than controlling it by one’s will, but lots of things in D&D worlds embody elements, or concepts, and not all of them get counted as gods. So again, what’s the difference?Ok, this seems like a meaningful distinction. Thank you. So, in your game, the difference between “god” and “not god” is that the former’s Will defines the laws of the cosmos, whereas the latter are bound by those laws.Presumably there are specific entities in your world whose will defines the cosmos then, yes? By the definitions given as I understand them, a flat-earth atheist in your world would be someone who doesn’t believe those specific entities exist (despite falsifiable evidence that they do). A nay-theist would be someone who believes that these specific entities do exist, but does not believe their will actually defines the laws of the cosmos.</blockquote>

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