Need help with a player wanting a 2h bludg weapon

[Darklone]

Why not using greatclub?

It's nearly the same.

Got a player too with a big twohanded hammer. It does bludge and pierce damage since it has two spikes on each side of the heavy hammerhead.

Other stats same as everyone cited. Greatclub. I would not raise the critical multiplier though.

 

[Particle_Man]

Warhammer is Med d8, Size up would be large d10.

"A-hem": The Greater-Crested Rules Lawyer awakens! (Anyone who is old enough to get the reference is too darned old, just like me).

Unless there has been an errata, the (curiously unnumbered) table on Page 162 of the DMG, left column, under the paragraph entitled 'Weapon Size and Damage' states that if your weapon's "Original Damage" is 1d8, then the damage for a weapon made "One Size Larger" is 2d6. (Like a long sword made large 'becomes' a great sword in effect).

Oddly enough, a 1d10 damage weapon (like a bastard sword) also becomes a 2d6 damage weapon when you increase its size.

In short, there is a greater damage increase when one increases a 1d8 weapon (which is usually medium) than when one increases a 1d6 damage weapon (which is usually small). Just the way it is. Look at the average damage of small, medium and large simple and martial meelee weapons (at least the ones without a highly superior crit. range, or special tricks).

 

[Enkhidu]

You know, I think I still have that April Fools issue of Dragon...

Anyway, when you look at a Battle axe (one handed martial weapon - 1d8, 20, X3) and a Warhammer (one handed weapon - 1d8, 20, X3), the only thing that differs is the type of damage. They, if I remember right, have similar weights, too.

Therefore, what would the harm be in a Maul that did d12, 20, X3 just like a Great Axe?

 

[Fade]

1d10 x3 large martial is underpowered. Either 1d10 x4 (devastating impact when it does hit) or 1d12 x3 (copying greataxe) IMO.

 

[SpikeyFreak]

1d10 x3 large martial is underpowered. Either 1d10 x4 (devastating impact when it does hit) or 1d12 x3 (copying greataxe) IMO.

FRCS - Maul 1d10x3, 20lb, 15gp, large martial

--Verbatum Spikey

 

[MythandLore]

You know, I think I still have that April Fools issue of Dragon...

Anyway, when you look at a Battle axe (one handed martial weapon - 1d8, 20, X3) and a Warhammer (one handed weapon - 1d8, 20, X3), the only thing that differs is the type of damage. They, if I remember right, have similar weights, too.

Therefore, what would the harm be in a Maul that did d12, 20, X3 just like a Great Axe?

The exotic dwarven waraxe was a "step up" frrom the Battleaxe.
from 1d8 x3 to 1d10 x3

The great axe was a "step up" frrom the exotic dwarven waraxe.
from 1d10 x3 to 1d12 x3

the exotic bastard sword is a step up from the long sword.
from 1d8 19-20x2 to 1d10 19-20x2

the great sword is a step up from the exotic bastard sword.
from 1d10 19-20x2 to 2d6 19-20x2

But,
WotC never made a exotic hammer.
Which is why the maul (in FRCS) is one step above the Warhammer.
from 1d8 x3 to 1d10 x3

Now if instead you made say the Maul exotic at 1d10 in your game, I could see making a "Great Hammer" at 1d12.
But that's only if you change the maul to a Med. Exotic weapon.

"A-hem": The Greater-Crested Rules Lawyer awakens! (Anyone who is old enough to get the reference is too darned old, just like me).

Unless there has been an errata, the (curiously unnumbered) table on Page 162 of the DMG, left column, under the paragraph entitled 'Weapon Size and Damage' states that if your weapon's "Original Damage" is 1d8, then the damage for a weapon made "One Size Larger" is 2d6. (Like a long sword made large 'becomes' a great sword in effect).

Oddly enough, a 1d10 damage weapon (like a bastard sword) also becomes a 2d6 damage weapon when you increase its size.

In short, there is a greater damage increase when one increases a 1d8 weapon (which is usually medium) than when one increases a 1d6 damage weapon (which is usually small). Just the way it is. Look at the average damage of small, medium and large simple and martial meelee weapons (at least the ones without a highly superior crit. range, or special tricks).

Being a "Rules Lawyer" is meaning less if they already made a 1d10 large hammer that breaks the "rules".
Your just making house rules for your game now.

 

[SpikeyFreak]

Why not make it so you can use it in one hand like the bastard sword and the dwarven waraxe if you have an exotic weapon prof?

--Ingenious Spikey

 

[MythandLore]

Why not make it so you can use it in one hand like the bastard sword and the dwarven waraxe if you have an exotic weapon prof?

--Ingenious Spikey

That would be probably the best thing to do.
Like.
Maul - Exotic Meduim - 15gp - 1d10 - x3 - 15lb. - Bludg. (a two handed weapon that can be use with one hand like the bastard sword and the dwarven waraxe with exotic proficency)
Then make the "Great Hammer"
Great Hammer - Large - 20gp - 1d12 - x3 - 20lb. - Bludg.

 

[melkoriii]

That would be probably the best thing to do.
Like.
Maul - Exotic Meduim - 15gp - 1d10 - x3 - 15lb. - Bludg. (a two handed weapon that can be use with one hand like the bastard sword and the dwarven waraxe with exotic proficency)
Then make the "Great Hammer"
Great Hammer - Large - 20gp - 1d12 - x3 - 20lb. - Bludg.

That would be my call too. Just mimic the slashing weapons they have.

 

[coyote6]

That would be probably the best thing to do.
Like.
Maul - Exotic Meduim - 15gp - 1d10 - x3 - 15lb. - Bludg. (a two handed weapon that can be use with one hand like the bastard sword and the dwarven waraxe with exotic proficency)
Then make the "Great Hammer"
Great Hammer - Large - 20gp - 1d12 - x3 - 20lb. - Bludg.

That's almost exactly what I did.

I called the large martial weapon a maul* (15 gp, 1d12/x3, 20 lbs) and called the medium-size exotic weapon a "sledge, war"** (25 gp, 1d10/x3, 15 lb). I tried to keep the same relation (wrt damage, weight & cost) between greataxe & maul and dwarven waraxe & war sledge, as there is between battleaxe & warhammer.

* FRCS calls the large martial weapon a "maul", and I didn't want to change that to great hammer or the like, since it would mean remembering that every reference in an FR book to a "maul" really means "great hammer". I predicted confusion.
** I'm not terribly happy with that name, though. The other options I thought of were "mattock, war" and "mallet, war" -- but a mattock isn't really a bludgeoning weapon, and I tend to think of a small hammer when I hear "mallet". Anybody got a better name?