Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Negative constitution modifier
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6527860" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>Prior to 3E, you could play a character with Con 7 and it wouldn't really hurt you at all, and even a score of 4 would only put you at the same penalty as modern editions assigns a score of 8 or 9. It's really a modern invention that everyone benefits from Con, because the difference between rolling (1d6+3) or (1d6-1) is <em>huge</em>.</p><p></p><p>If the system goes from 3-18, and it's possible to have stats in that range (as unlikely as it may be), then gameplay shouldn't <em>sharply</em> deteriorate because you happened to have a score on the low end. For every other stat, it makes sense to use that range, because some people might really have a low Strength or a low Charisma, and it won't kill them. For Con, there is <em>no</em> class that can reasonably get away with having it below average, which means the <em>average</em> Con score ends up way <em>above</em> average, and now I have a headache.</p><p></p><p>There's also an element of system mastery involved, where that sort of thing is to be frowned upon in this edition. A new player won't necessarily know that making a wizard with low Con is <em>much </em>worse than making a wizard with low Strength, and is likely to suffer through no fault of his or her own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6527860, member: 6775031"] Prior to 3E, you could play a character with Con 7 and it wouldn't really hurt you at all, and even a score of 4 would only put you at the same penalty as modern editions assigns a score of 8 or 9. It's really a modern invention that everyone benefits from Con, because the difference between rolling (1d6+3) or (1d6-1) is [I]huge[/I]. If the system goes from 3-18, and it's possible to have stats in that range (as unlikely as it may be), then gameplay shouldn't [I]sharply[/I] deteriorate because you happened to have a score on the low end. For every other stat, it makes sense to use that range, because some people might really have a low Strength or a low Charisma, and it won't kill them. For Con, there is [I]no[/I] class that can reasonably get away with having it below average, which means the [I]average[/I] Con score ends up way [I]above[/I] average, and now I have a headache. There's also an element of system mastery involved, where that sort of thing is to be frowned upon in this edition. A new player won't necessarily know that making a wizard with low Con is [I]much [/I]worse than making a wizard with low Strength, and is likely to suffer through no fault of his or her own. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Negative constitution modifier
Top