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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 1601134" data-attributes="member: 3570">For me "cool and enjoyable" use of metal or butt rock in a sci-fi film would be along the lines of James Cameron including Guns N Roses in T2, because there a ten year old kid was carrying around a boom box in a movie set in 1994.  Though in retrospect, he probably should have been listening to Pearl Jam or Nirvana, but Jimmy had no way of knowing that when he shot the film in 1990.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> I'm also not ripping on Rob Zombie being featured in the club scene in The Matrix.  Again, the context fit the setting.  If AvP turns out to be set in 2004 and one of the bounty hunters (or whoever they are) has a scene where they unwind to some metal I won't necessarily cry foul.I haven't seen Predator in a while, but I'm pretty sure when Arnold's team is riding in the helicopters toward the jungle drop point they might be listening to some rock.  But again it was a contemporary setting and I think one of the guys had a radio.  Could be wrong on that one.But when hard rock or metal is used as the score itself, yuck, yuck, yuck.  Just lame.  I'm talking Resident Evil.  Maximum Overdrive.  Crap like that.  A little bit here and there in a setting appropriate context I don't have a problem with.  I hated Highlander (I've only seen the first one.)  I hated Heavy Metal.  Not just because of the music but it certainly didn't help those movies.Highlander was what I'd call "serious" and Flash Gordon wasn't.  Queen worked just fine in the latter, but I found it distracting in the former.And when I describe a film as "serious" I mean they don't make fun of their own premise.  Not that you sit there stonefaced watching the whole thing.  Arnold may wink or nod at the audience on occassion, but the Terminator and Predator films took their premises seriously and delivered some intense thrills.Listen to Jim Cameron's commentary on the Extreme T2 DVD if you want further clarification on the subject, or at least my take on it.  Cameron makes several references to being careful at not crossing that line into full-on self parody or lack of respect for what's appropriate in a given genre.  He was concerned about playing "Bad to the Bone" when Arnold stepped out of the bar and the potential silliness for the "stand on one foot" scene with John Connor.Lots of "serious" sci-fi films have comic relief or crowd pleasing moments, but they're all business when it matters most dramatically, or at least the good ones are.  For me, metal just doesn't work in dramatic scenes or action sequences.  That's really all there is to it, and to date no one has even been successful in mentioning a film that would be the exception to the rule.</blockquote>

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