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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arknath" data-source="post: 5573550" data-attributes="member: 2850">First, thanks for the feedback.  Much quicker here than it was on the Pathfinder boards. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Second, I posted this up so quick I forgot to mention (not that it matters overly much) that the ideas were very rough, but the principles were there.Third, I have to say...all good ideas here.  Very much agreed here.  In my haste to build my first archetype, I copied out of the APG/UM books a little too closely...and even they didn't keep all the names <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.Very interesting indeed.  I hadn't much looked at the summoner rules and so I wouldn't have made this connection.  I'll check it out and see what I come up with...I'll let you know.Another good call.  Simplicity is better. My only qualm is making sure the ability has enough "oomph" - as it were - keeping with the frequency of actually using the bonus on JUST plants.This is a good idea too.  Yer just full of em <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.Yes...my only apprehension about this ability was allowing a "gargantuan" sized creature into a party.  I also didn't want to put the ability too early - 16th - instead of 18th.  Your thoughts on placement of this ability.Although not the capstone of the class, I was particularly proud of this ability.  As a DM and a player, I've got a taste for the dramatic and I love it when the player characters have some in-game explanation/ritual that imprints how they achieve their powers and abilities.  In fact, I'm the DM (love me or hate me) that will force training time between levels (most likely in a montage of "I practice this form for a week" or "I test this new spell on a mouse before I test it on me".  It gives some depth to the campaign world.Looking at the ability from a fresh set if eyes is what I wanted.  I thought about the fact that "Awaken" was a spell that could be cast multiple times per day and thus outstretch this ability with it's sheer applicability.  That being said, I wanted to give the greenlord something a bit more than just "tree-friends" and something that was more of the "Prying Eyes" sort of ability in a druid-esque ability.  The frequency and ability can be scrapped, but...I do not think that "A Thousand Faces" is a very "plant-like" ability and I'd need to find another 13th level ability.I can be long-winded...so, I'll cut it here and see what you think <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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