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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9444277" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I've articulated the missing 12 archetypes I believe need to be in there. Not really sure what "a sorcerer version of the blade dancer" would be--can you explain the idea further?Anyway, the 12 "missing" archetypes/class fantasies I mentioned in previous threads were, in alphabetical order. Those marked with a dagger are, IMO, the most likely to actually be implemented.[SPOILER="Missing Class Fantasies"]<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alchemist†, the chemist-as-magician, who uses magical ingredients and concoctions to control the world...or themselves.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Assassin†, the warrior-of-shadow, whose skill with all the subtle ways to stalk (and un-alive) someone transcends mortal limits.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Avenger†, the warrior-of-zeal, whose absolute focus is both shield and sword against their enemies, who executes the turncoat apostate.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Invoker, the emissary-as-magician, who calls down disaster upon the foes of the faith, Elijah calling fire down against the altar of Baal.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Machinist" (not my fav name), the warrior-of-technology, who uses guns, machines, and tools to overcome their foes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psion† (etc.), the telepath-as-magician, who draws on ESP, the paranormal, occult "science" etc. to bend the rules of reality in their favor.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shaman, the spiritualist-as-magician, who straddles the line between material and spirit, the bridge connecting these realms.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Summoner, the overseer-as-magician, whose magic lies in getting other beings to use magic for her.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Swordmage†, the warrior-as-magician, for whom swordplay is magic, and magic is swordplay (or other weapons), one and inseparable.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warden, the warrior-of-the-land, who wears Nature's power like a cloak, and wreaks Her wrath where he walks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warlord†, the warrior-of-tactics, who transcends limits by cooperating with others rather than purely through her own mettle.</li> </ul>[/SPOILER]I loved the playtest sorcerer as a concept, so if you can bring it to life, I'm all for it. I might suggest, however, making it be d10 or even d8, but having subclasses that get bonus HP on gaining more levels of this class. That way, you can capitalize on varied flavor--some of your bloodline-disciple characters might be linked to shadow (sneaky and brutal), fey (glamourous and beguiling),</blockquote>

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