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<blockquote data-quote="procproc" data-source="post: 7677042" data-attributes="member: 6791328"><p>I agree that it's one of flavor, but I get a different sense than you do. My feeling is that the flavor of the Realms is just more over-the-top epic in scope. </p><p></p><p>When I think of Greyhawk, I immediately think of Iuz, a demon price running a country and trying to take over the world. He's no lightweight, but he's no tarrasque, either -- he's not going to singlehandedly crush the entire world. And he feels somehow static to me -- while he's plotting evil, I can't think of any great storylines involving specific acts he did.</p><p></p><p>When I think of the Forgotten Realms, I think of Karsus and the fall of Netheril. That's ancient FR history, but even in more recent times, I think of Fzoul, Manshoon, Elminster, the Simbul, the Red Wizards, and so forth. Lots of figures that are practically godlike in power, who *could* take over the world on their own, but can't because there are others in their weight class stopping them. </p><p></p><p>Greyhawk doesn't feel darker to me, but it does feel grittier because of that difference -- like there's less room for deus ex machina, because there just aren't the same big players to step in if the PCs don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="procproc, post: 7677042, member: 6791328"] I agree that it's one of flavor, but I get a different sense than you do. My feeling is that the flavor of the Realms is just more over-the-top epic in scope. When I think of Greyhawk, I immediately think of Iuz, a demon price running a country and trying to take over the world. He's no lightweight, but he's no tarrasque, either -- he's not going to singlehandedly crush the entire world. And he feels somehow static to me -- while he's plotting evil, I can't think of any great storylines involving specific acts he did. When I think of the Forgotten Realms, I think of Karsus and the fall of Netheril. That's ancient FR history, but even in more recent times, I think of Fzoul, Manshoon, Elminster, the Simbul, the Red Wizards, and so forth. Lots of figures that are practically godlike in power, who *could* take over the world on their own, but can't because there are others in their weight class stopping them. Greyhawk doesn't feel darker to me, but it does feel grittier because of that difference -- like there's less room for deus ex machina, because there just aren't the same big players to step in if the PCs don't. [/QUOTE]
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