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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7677089" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>As others have pointed out, Greyhawk has it's share of uber-powerful NPCs. However, the tone/feel is certainly different. The NPCs that are "equivalent" to Elminster and all the various Chosen of FR is the Circle of Eight . . . but most Greyhawk players know these NPCs are famous and important BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ORIGINAL PCs!!! The only reason Mordenkainen is who he is, is because he was Gary's player character! (or, one of Gary's players/friends, can't remember anymore) So, the feeling that I got from the setting is that Mordenkainen and crew weren't there to play <em>deus ex machina</em>, but served as inspiration for my own character's exploits.</p><p></p><p>I don't see Greyhawk as darker, but certainly more gritty and more in tune with older sword-and-sorcery influences. It's tone and feel certainly offer something different from D&D's other settings . . . and nostalgia is a powerful drug . . . but ultimately, I don't see Greyhawk as being worth WotC's time (as a business) to redo.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I'd almost certainly purchase a 5E Greyhawk as would other long-time fans . . . but I don't think WotC doing Greyhawk justice and also making some profit really go together. What I would love to see is a coffee-table style book with NO CRUNCH (because, it isn't needed) that presents the original Greyhawk, has a chapter outlining the "future history" developed in later game products, and a chapter with advice on how to GM that "old school" feel. Beautiful maps and art, fresh writing . . . I'd buy that! But I don't think WotC would sell enough copies to make it worthwhile . . .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7677089, member: 18182"] As others have pointed out, Greyhawk has it's share of uber-powerful NPCs. However, the tone/feel is certainly different. The NPCs that are "equivalent" to Elminster and all the various Chosen of FR is the Circle of Eight . . . but most Greyhawk players know these NPCs are famous and important BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ORIGINAL PCs!!! The only reason Mordenkainen is who he is, is because he was Gary's player character! (or, one of Gary's players/friends, can't remember anymore) So, the feeling that I got from the setting is that Mordenkainen and crew weren't there to play [I]deus ex machina[/I], but served as inspiration for my own character's exploits. I don't see Greyhawk as darker, but certainly more gritty and more in tune with older sword-and-sorcery influences. It's tone and feel certainly offer something different from D&D's other settings . . . and nostalgia is a powerful drug . . . but ultimately, I don't see Greyhawk as being worth WotC's time (as a business) to redo. I mean, I'd almost certainly purchase a 5E Greyhawk as would other long-time fans . . . but I don't think WotC doing Greyhawk justice and also making some profit really go together. What I would love to see is a coffee-table style book with NO CRUNCH (because, it isn't needed) that presents the original Greyhawk, has a chapter outlining the "future history" developed in later game products, and a chapter with advice on how to GM that "old school" feel. Beautiful maps and art, fresh writing . . . I'd buy that! But I don't think WotC would sell enough copies to make it worthwhile . . . [/QUOTE]
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