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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 7677136" data-attributes="member: 205">I absolutely agree with you that if artificer and alchemist are, say, one degree of separation, that a shaman is more like 5.&nbsp; I would have no problem seeing alchemist as a subclass of a broader artificer class.I also agree with you that a class does need some sort of overarching concept to support its development.&nbsp; I just see a class focused on magical imbuement, where the subclass concepts share a commonality of technique and practice, as being strong enough to support a diverse core of subclasses.&nbsp; A shaman uses the technique to focus on the creation of fetishes to help his tribe.&nbsp; A runecaster creates powerful warding magic to protect the dwarven hold from advancing orcs.&nbsp; An alchemist brews love charms and healing draughts in a seedy lab behind the tavern in the slums.&nbsp; An artificer produces an elementally powered device in his laboratory in the gnomish city.&nbsp; What unites them is the technique to use magic to create a persistent benefit to people beyond themselves .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 7677136, member: 205"] I absolutely agree with you that if artificer and alchemist are, say, one degree of separation, that a shaman is more like 5. I would have no problem seeing alchemist as a subclass of a broader artificer class. I also agree with you that a class does need some sort of overarching concept to support its development. I just see a class focused on magical imbuement, where the subclass concepts share a commonality of [I]technique[/I] and [I]practice[/I], as being strong enough to support a diverse core of subclasses. A shaman uses the technique to focus on the creation of fetishes to help his tribe. A runecaster creates powerful warding magic to protect the dwarven hold from advancing orcs. An alchemist brews love charms and healing draughts in a seedy lab behind the tavern in the slums. An artificer produces an elementally powered device in his laboratory in the gnomish city. What unites them is the technique to use magic to create a persistent benefit to people beyond themselves . [/QUOTE]

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