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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 7677170" data-attributes="member: 6689464">I remember that, I was very against that, but not because of the limits, because it wasn't called Wizard at the time, it was called MAGE, and was hardcoding scrolls, potions and stuff to all wizards, all sorcerers, all warlocks and even all psions.I agree entirely, but with a precision: The wilders-empaths-whatever you want to call them deserve some place too, a more emotional and raw counterpart to the meditative and disciplined psion. And the order thing won't exactly fit with that.  It sounds interesting. It could fit with the sorcerer, and give the class some needed animal friends and summons. But it doesn't quite fit the "mystic" and animistic flavor people expect from the shaman.</blockquote>