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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 7867326" data-attributes="member: 6803664">Against the Giants was published in 1981.  It's the compilation of the original Giants modules from '78.And by that time the Drow worshiping Lolth was just as old as the Giants modules So it may or may not have been modified/expanded upon. (I don't know, I don't have the original series or the G1-2-3 volume in my collection as I just have the '87 super-module version.  And just by the page count alone I know that's modified.)1981 is also the year the Fiend Folio was published.  Lolth is presented there.Though there is zero mention of her in the Drow entry.  Only in her own entry is it mentioned that A) she enjoys appearing in the form of an exquisitely beautiful Dark Elf, B) that it's only because the Drow worship her that causes her to materialize that anything's really known of her.  Lolth enjoys the company of spiders.I don't know what was in the original modules, but I'm going to guess that the Matriarchy came 1st as the Fiend Folio only notes that the females have higher lv caps than the males.  It's (essentially) a *&# non-human alien!  Anyone can play it.  And no matter how non-white the person, they'll NEVER be black enough to be a proper looking Drow.  Wich makes it perfect for CGI.And your wrong.  The moronic argument against putting evil black elves in a D&D movie is that ignorant people will say "OMG, they made the alien bad guy BLACK.  That means that they're saying all black people here in the real world are evil!" .....   I think the tentacle rods are because:"Hall" also introduces EHP'SS Eclavdra, a drow priestess. The funky abbreviation stands for "Evil High Priest('ess)". She reappears in D3: "Vault of the Drow" (1978), which also reveals her familial name, Eilservs. Eclavdra has been a major recurring villain over the years and also appeared in Gygax's Gord novels. She appropriately makes an appearance in the Against the Giants novel (1999), where she's killed.Finally, "Hall" offers more hints about the Elder Elemental God, who was first alluded to in G1: "Steading of the Hill Giant Chief". This time around, the strange god is featured in the "Temple of the Eye", on level 2 of the Hall. Again, there aren't a lot of details. The Lovecraftian tentacles and insanity recur, while a big glowing eye appears for the first time. D3: "Vault of the Drow" would finally reveal that this Temple (and presumably the one in "Steading") was a "Temple of the Eye of the Elder Elemental God", a god worshiped by the Eilservs, who would largely disappear from D&D lore after the initial appearances in the "G" and "D" adventures."Clipped from Drive Thru RPG synopsis of Hall of the Fire Giant King.If Gygax had originally been envisioning a Lovecraftian theme for his Drow, or at least Eclavdra, this item fits quite well.</blockquote>

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