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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6186335" data-attributes="member: 2525">I personally like the ability requirements, but they are not the only means within the game to add a cost to multiclassing.  And for the life of me I do not know why the other part of the equation isn't getting more attention, because as you said the ability requirements are relatively minor, and you get ability score increases that can eventually get you into the class if you want to.But the other part of the equation is the loss of ability/feat increase roughly every four levels of a class.  You do not get these increases based on your character level.  You only get them at certain levels of a particular class.  So if you constantly multiclass, you never get them.  Heck, if you spend three levels in a class and never go back to it, you never get the increase/feat.  People have been talking about this as if it's a "trap" for new players.  But I disagree.  Folks are approaching it with the mentality of having played 3e and 4e where you get feats and ability increases based on your overall character level.  But a new player doesn't come in with that bias from prior editions.  This is the game to them, this is where they learn how things work, and a new player will see how it's the classes that come with the ability/feat at certain levels, not the character's overall level.  I don't see it as a trap for new players - new players will spot this much easier than older players who are used to prior editions and the customs from those additions that focus on character level rather than class level for those sorts of things.  Besides, if it's really a big concern, they just need to add a sidebar on "To Multiclass or Not?" that mentions the delay in the ability/feat increase.Anyway, I think the benefit of level-dipping is roughly equal to the costs of doing it, with those costs being the minimum ability requirements, delay in ability/feat increase, and delay in primary class abilities.  It's not a "punishment", it's the reasonable costs applied to balance out the benefits of all those first level abilities from a new class.</blockquote>

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