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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 7675068" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Part of the problem is that in 4e, Remove Affliction and Raise Dead were rituals, which meant any spellcaster (or person willing to burn a feat) to could use them, but warlords naturally couldn't. So as long as you had at least one ritual user, you could be ok with a warlord who only healed hp as your healer. (Of course, if you had a no-ritual-user party, you were screwed). That is a very different design paradigm than 5e, which returned those abilities back to a limited number of classes (BCDP) in the form of spells. (And not even to ritual casters, which is a bit of a oversight imho). So even if we give the warlord back his full ability (and by that, I mean healing full hp in combat like 4e did) he's still whiffing on those other very key areas. In short, you'd still need a BCDP to shore up those two key areas, which makes him ill-suited for replacing a healer-caster. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is why I'm guessing they opted to leave it out of the PHB. It sounds like it might need its own subsystem or augmented ruleset, much like psionics might, and would have to be an opt-in style system because of how it changes the assumptions of the core rules. Nothing against that, but like psionics I think it would be a polarizing element best suited for a supplement at some point down the road. </p><p></p><p>Hmmm... the warlord might be a good candidate to put with the martial adepts (swordsage, crusade, etc) in some Martial Power supplement...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 7675068, member: 7635"] Part of the problem is that in 4e, Remove Affliction and Raise Dead were rituals, which meant any spellcaster (or person willing to burn a feat) to could use them, but warlords naturally couldn't. So as long as you had at least one ritual user, you could be ok with a warlord who only healed hp as your healer. (Of course, if you had a no-ritual-user party, you were screwed). That is a very different design paradigm than 5e, which returned those abilities back to a limited number of classes (BCDP) in the form of spells. (And not even to ritual casters, which is a bit of a oversight imho). So even if we give the warlord back his full ability (and by that, I mean healing full hp in combat like 4e did) he's still whiffing on those other very key areas. In short, you'd still need a BCDP to shore up those two key areas, which makes him ill-suited for replacing a healer-caster. Which is why I'm guessing they opted to leave it out of the PHB. It sounds like it might need its own subsystem or augmented ruleset, much like psionics might, and would have to be an opt-in style system because of how it changes the assumptions of the core rules. Nothing against that, but like psionics I think it would be a polarizing element best suited for a supplement at some point down the road. Hmmm... the warlord might be a good candidate to put with the martial adepts (swordsage, crusade, etc) in some Martial Power supplement... [/QUOTE]
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