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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 7675086" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I'm not about to tell someone else why they liked a class. In my - many and extended - convos with folks who are big warlord fans, one of the recurring themes is that they like that warlords can pick somebody up who is down. Healing is the simplest way to do that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This isn't an either-or choice. Yeah, it'll take ~3-5 levels for a 5e warlord to have most of the toys her 4e counterpart had. Healing can be part of that ability package. It's not like clerics can't do things besides heal - healing is part of their package. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The baseline is the inclusion of four classes - Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, and Wizard, each with one subclass. This is the Basic Ruleset that anyone can pick up and run tomorrow. Every class beyond that is not part of the baseline. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It sounds like your position is "not very many people want it, so it shouldn't be done, it'd just waste page count for most people."</p><p></p><p>But you could say the same thing about most of the classes in the PHB. </p><p></p><p>I'd trust WotC to have better market research than I did, so if it ever was something they considered (and there's no current sign that it is - it wasn't even an option on the survey), I imagine it'd be something they thought was worth the page count and development dollars. That's not a decision I've got the information to make. </p><p></p><p>But I do have, I think, enough information to say that I get why some fans of the 4e warlord are exactly enthusiastic about the 5e classes that try to fill that same space, and to say that I imagine it could be something done in 5e, and to say that it could even warrant a new class - huge as it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 7675086, member: 2067"] I'm not about to tell someone else why they liked a class. In my - many and extended - convos with folks who are big warlord fans, one of the recurring themes is that they like that warlords can pick somebody up who is down. Healing is the simplest way to do that. This isn't an either-or choice. Yeah, it'll take ~3-5 levels for a 5e warlord to have most of the toys her 4e counterpart had. Healing can be part of that ability package. It's not like clerics can't do things besides heal - healing is part of their package. The baseline is the inclusion of four classes - Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, and Wizard, each with one subclass. This is the Basic Ruleset that anyone can pick up and run tomorrow. Every class beyond that is not part of the baseline. It sounds like your position is "not very many people want it, so it shouldn't be done, it'd just waste page count for most people." But you could say the same thing about most of the classes in the PHB. I'd trust WotC to have better market research than I did, so if it ever was something they considered (and there's no current sign that it is - it wasn't even an option on the survey), I imagine it'd be something they thought was worth the page count and development dollars. That's not a decision I've got the information to make. But I do have, I think, enough information to say that I get why some fans of the 4e warlord are exactly enthusiastic about the 5e classes that try to fill that same space, and to say that I imagine it could be something done in 5e, and to say that it could even warrant a new class - huge as it is. [/QUOTE]
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