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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 7675108" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Right. Those folks have valor bards and battlemaster fighters and war clerics and the Healer feat and....</p><p></p><p>And also I haven't heard many people voice a problem with the "spend Hit Dice" idea in 5e from a meat perspective. I'm pretty much as meaty as they come, and I'd probably be kind of OK with it - it's explicitly a more internal reserve of energy than magical healing, and it is something you can do during a short rest anyway. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm just saying that a 5e warlord that is meant to satisfy the warlord fans who are not already satisfied will want some healing. It's fine if that's only part of what they can do. But it should be a part of what they do - if it's not, that's not going to satisfy those fans. </p><p></p><p>It doesn't really matter how much <em>logic</em> goes into that desire. The audience handed you a design goal on a silver platter, either it's worth meeting or it's not. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is why WotC presumably does market research - they have a better idea of how many people really want it and how many people would be "pissed off" by it. They know better than lil' ol' me if it ever would maybe actually make sense to publish something like that.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the people who aren't happy with your proposed solutions are being unreasonable or that 5e is somehow incapable of meeting their requests. If allowing an optional class that allows someone to spend HD in combat as a class option is a <em>gamebreaker</em> for someone, I think that person probably needs to not be such a frickin' princess snowflake about their game and should let other folks have fun how they want to. </p><p></p><p>Really, anyone telling 4e warlord fans they can't have their non-magical healing warlord because <em>someone somewhere might get angry that the game allows their table to do something different</em> is shining up your Fun Police badge so that you can arrest all the people who don't have fun the way you want everyone to have fun. A modular game like 5e don't need that mess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 7675108, member: 2067"] Right. Those folks have valor bards and battlemaster fighters and war clerics and the Healer feat and.... And also I haven't heard many people voice a problem with the "spend Hit Dice" idea in 5e from a meat perspective. I'm pretty much as meaty as they come, and I'd probably be kind of OK with it - it's explicitly a more internal reserve of energy than magical healing, and it is something you can do during a short rest anyway. I'm just saying that a 5e warlord that is meant to satisfy the warlord fans who are not already satisfied will want some healing. It's fine if that's only part of what they can do. But it should be a part of what they do - if it's not, that's not going to satisfy those fans. It doesn't really matter how much [I]logic[/I] goes into that desire. The audience handed you a design goal on a silver platter, either it's worth meeting or it's not. Again, this is why WotC presumably does market research - they have a better idea of how many people really want it and how many people would be "pissed off" by it. They know better than lil' ol' me if it ever would maybe actually make sense to publish something like that. I don't think the people who aren't happy with your proposed solutions are being unreasonable or that 5e is somehow incapable of meeting their requests. If allowing an optional class that allows someone to spend HD in combat as a class option is a [I]gamebreaker[/I] for someone, I think that person probably needs to not be such a frickin' princess snowflake about their game and should let other folks have fun how they want to. Really, anyone telling 4e warlord fans they can't have their non-magical healing warlord because [I]someone somewhere might get angry that the game allows their table to do something different[/I] is shining up your Fun Police badge so that you can arrest all the people who don't have fun the way you want everyone to have fun. A modular game like 5e don't need that mess. [/QUOTE]
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