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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7675129" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Just for the record, there is no helpful nor any unhelpful framing or re-framing of this issue.  This issue is a myopic, petulant, never-ending battle over the narrative of "what is D&D (?)" and thusly what gate-keeping, rabble-rousing, othering, and grave-dancing needs to be done in order to keep some perceived "not D&D" virus out of the purified bloodstream and collective conscience of D&D.  It has been going on since I entered the hobby in the early 80s.It is D&D Groundhog Day and we are all locked in this endless circle of triteness and insanity and we are never, ever, ever escaping.  Not as long as that groundhog keeps seeing his shadow.Then put your little hand in mineThere ain't no hill or mountain we can't climbBabeI got you babeI got you babe</blockquote>