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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 7675154" data-attributes="member: 2067">That's not a complaint in my mind, it's just accurate. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There's no real indication this is anything more than aesthetics - even "grittier" healing still uses HD, and plenty of folks who don't like 'em dropped 'em.What I'm referring to, though, is the hypothetical ability of this proposed 5e healer to use HD to heal - I haven't heard much complaining about that. And, again, I'm a pretty dang meat-heavy person. No short rest in my games will ever be 5 minutes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I think it'd probably be fine. I don't imagine for a second that the surveys on their website are the only market research they're doing. That'd just be shooting themselves in the foot - I've every confidence that they're aware that their surveys are getting the most well-informed fans' opinions and that if they want a true representation of the diversity of D&D's wheelhouse they'll need to do more than online polls. My point is that how minor this minority is is something WotC would have an idea of and that none of us would. I certainly never made any claims of popularity, merely of reasonableness - I think can see the logic of the "warlord malcontents" and I think their complaints are reasonable and able to be addressed mechanically. Yep, it is. I'm not telling people what they need to accept at their tables, I'm just telling people that - shocker - there's going to be ways of playing this game that they're not into that are still part of this game. If you don't like an option, you don't use it. If you want an option, you use it. Either way, there's not a fight about it. Even at an individual table - the DM determines what's going on ultimately, and either that's cool, or it's not. There isn't One True Way, here. That was absurd when 4e tried it, and it'd be even MORE absurd for Big-Tent-5e to try it. I am not convinced that it should. In fact, if the reason it would draw that line is to appease people who want to exclude a certain playstyle from the game, I think it should erase that line completely and sing the praises of morale-based narrative HP from the rooftops, as much as I'm not a fan of it, because we should always push back against this purity test for "real D&D" that pretends that WotC's approval is like a gold star of approval for hating on someone else's playstyle. That's some toxic purity test weapons-grade bolognium.</blockquote>

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