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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8383031" data-attributes="member: 7015698">You should watch Thunderbolt Fantasy: Bewitching Melody of the West then...Monks are extremely effective at getting around the battlefield, that's for sure.Then they don't do anything.Monks have like 1 optimal play line, and that comes online at level 5 with Stunning Strike, and they have 1 optimal stat spread that doesn't leave them dead the moment someone attacks them. Playing a Monk is a frustrating exercise in precise Ki management and precise stat line. It's really really easy to mess up and have your Monk's effectiveness drop to 0 until the next short rest recharges your Ki. And even if you land all your attacks, it still feels like you're not doing a lot of damage.When I play a Monk, it feels like I'm walking a tight rope. I feel like I have to work hard just to reach the same end point everybody does with no effort, it's just really frustrating.As a Way of Shadow Monk I got mobility for DAYS and stealth that will make any Rogue jealous... but I feel like that's all I got and it doesn't serve any sort of purpose beyond itself. It's great to spy on people and that's about it.As for Bards, it's really frustrating that they only have Vicious Mockery as a damaging cantrip in the PHB.</blockquote>