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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8383367" data-attributes="member: 42856">First, thanks to all who proposed iconic bards, and mentionned different books I have never read. I fear I am too old to have my mental fantasy imagery change too much (so I associate Merlin with other than class that bard, and Maglor didn't register as a full caster, so not bard despite being a badass fighter proficient with singing and musical instruments, and yes Assurancetourix, so that's not a motivation to play one), but I am pretty sure I'll get good stories to read among your list. So thanks you all ! (There is a strong point to be made about Odysseus be more a rogue than a bard, though. 5e bards are full spellcasters so that quite narrows the mental archetypes and nearly everytime collide with either wizard (academic knowledge) or sorcerer (spontaneous magic)).I fear, also, that the class that will be described as strong will get nerfed into suckiness to narrow the gap instead of improved the best ones. If this had been the goal, they'd have boosted the martial to solve LFQW in 3.5, instead of solving it by nerfing wizards a little and having nearly nobody play at level above 10+ (so even if wizards were still quadratic, nobody would know).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8383367, member: 42856"] First, thanks to all who proposed iconic bards, and mentionned different books I have never read. I fear I am too old to have my mental fantasy imagery change too much (so I associate Merlin with other than class that bard, and Maglor didn't register as a full caster, so not bard despite being a badass fighter proficient with singing and musical instruments, and yes Assurancetourix, so that's not a motivation to play one), but I am pretty sure I'll get good stories to read among your list. So thanks you all ! (There is a strong point to be made about Odysseus be more a rogue than a bard, though. 5e bards are full spellcasters so that quite narrows the mental archetypes and nearly everytime collide with either wizard (academic knowledge) or sorcerer (spontaneous magic)). I fear, also, that the class that will be described as strong will get nerfed into suckiness to narrow the gap instead of improved the best ones. If this had been the goal, they'd have boosted the martial to solve LFQW in 3.5, instead of solving it by nerfing wizards a little and having nearly nobody play at level above 10+ (so even if wizards were still quadratic, nobody would know). [/QUOTE]

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