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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8384178" data-attributes="member: 7015698">I'm convinced it was a bad design. It set a bad precedent for Wizard subclasses and really cut off a bunch of ideas for relatively subpar repetitive builds.Diviner is a good one because of its Portent ability, and Illusionist could work as a full on subclass because of the strong theme, and you could add spells to both that aren't on the Wizard spell list. Then they could have a generic subclass that gets the whole 'scribe your favoured school spells for cheaper' feature and just be a generic 'School Specialist' subclass. Maybe give them a 'You can use this feature once and you can use it again after you spend a slot on a spell of your chosen school' based on your favoured school (like the Abjurer shield).I'd have kept proper Necromancer for later when you have room to add more necromancy spells. I like Vicious Mockery because it's a support debuff you can apply At-Will, but I would be REALLY happy if there had been more of those available to the Bard... How about a 'Stillness of Silence' cantrip that slows a target? Or a miniature Fairie Fire that hits 1 target for 1 turn?But the rapier thing... I totally get it, it's way too good.I had a character who started originally as a Cleric of Trickery, who had a whole backstory about being actually a follower of a Deity of Secrets , but who pretended to be a follower of its aspect as the Deity of Knowledge (or was it travel?). He was on a personal revenge quest to destabilize the ruling government by manipulating nobles into backstabbing each other by gathering dirt on all of them. But I was disappointed with the Cleric of Trickery. It felt more like a Cleric of Stealth and not much else... so I tried to make him as a bard and I'm still not sure it was the best pick... that was before Xanathar came out, mind you. He wasn't a smarmy libido type, but more the "I know something you don't and I'm not telling" type with a thirst for dark secrets. But... I did end up with a rapier. In retrospect, an Arcane Trickster with Magic Initiate: Cleric and the Charlatan background could have worked really well. Or maybe even a Warlock?One day I'll revisit the concept now that we have more material to work with.</blockquote>

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