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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8385389" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>I had a completely serious Bard who wasn’t at all the stereotype, and fought with a falcata (reflavored scimitar IIRC) songblade that had holes and grooves that made it whistle like a mournful wind when in motion. He was a Shadar-kai, and his songs were flavored as flyting (real world Viking ritual insult contest) and crowing (bragging contest described in dragon as a shadarkai tradition). </p><p> </p><p>In 5e he’d definitely have vicious mockery, and I reject any accusation of silliness in that cantrip, even when it lands the killing blow. [spoiler=rant] Words are what makes magic do anything. The idea that it’s out of order to have a magic/lore/words master of the like of Taliesen and Merlin speak words of doom or contempt to someone and it completely dismantle their ability to function, even causing physical harm, up to and including death, is just…bonkers.</p><p></p><p>Of course you can magic-talk at someone and cause them actual real harm that could potentially cause them to fall down unconscious or dead. I have trouble imagining a world where dragons are real and priest have access to real miracles and the above <em>isn’t </em>possible. [/spoiler]</p><p> </p><p> A falcata being a very strong cutting sword that is very much one-handed, I’d probably work with my DM to make a slashing rapier. It doing less damage than a longsword does one-handed is just silly, to me. </p><p> </p><p>Probably College of Whispers, grab spells like Dissonant Whispers, possibly MC fighter eventually, maybe just grab Magic Initiate to get Booming Blade. </p><p> </p><p> My gnome Bard that I’d like to play soon is somewhere between the Irish fili and an Irish fennid, who has the classic lyre, and fights with shield and spear. There isn’t a perfect subclass for her, and I’ve thought about ditching Bard and going Fey Wanderer Ranger and/or Swashbuckler Rogue instead, but a big part of the concept is that her words/voice and lyre are magical, and can do things like calm emotions, befriend beasts, heal and inspire her allies, and make the weak amongst her enemies quail. </p><p> </p><p>The forest outlaw warrior band’s Bard should be at home in the woods, be a skilled warrior but not a specialist in any given weapon, and have some serious misdirection and tactics chops, <em>and</em> be able to sing a rampaging bear to sleep, turn a crowd against their lord with a few words, and fascinate with song and tale. </p><p> </p><p>I guess a rangery subclass of bard would work for that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8385389, member: 6704184"] I had a completely serious Bard who wasn’t at all the stereotype, and fought with a falcata (reflavored scimitar IIRC) songblade that had holes and grooves that made it whistle like a mournful wind when in motion. He was a Shadar-kai, and his songs were flavored as flyting (real world Viking ritual insult contest) and crowing (bragging contest described in dragon as a shadarkai tradition). In 5e he’d definitely have vicious mockery, and I reject any accusation of silliness in that cantrip, even when it lands the killing blow. [spoiler=rant] Words are what makes magic do anything. The idea that it’s out of order to have a magic/lore/words master of the like of Taliesen and Merlin speak words of doom or contempt to someone and it completely dismantle their ability to function, even causing physical harm, up to and including death, is just…bonkers. Of course you can magic-talk at someone and cause them actual real harm that could potentially cause them to fall down unconscious or dead. I have trouble imagining a world where dragons are real and priest have access to real miracles and the above [I]isn’t [/I]possible. [/spoiler] A falcata being a very strong cutting sword that is very much one-handed, I’d probably work with my DM to make a slashing rapier. It doing less damage than a longsword does one-handed is just silly, to me. Probably College of Whispers, grab spells like Dissonant Whispers, possibly MC fighter eventually, maybe just grab Magic Initiate to get Booming Blade. My gnome Bard that I’d like to play soon is somewhere between the Irish fili and an Irish fennid, who has the classic lyre, and fights with shield and spear. There isn’t a perfect subclass for her, and I’ve thought about ditching Bard and going Fey Wanderer Ranger and/or Swashbuckler Rogue instead, but a big part of the concept is that her words/voice and lyre are magical, and can do things like calm emotions, befriend beasts, heal and inspire her allies, and make the weak amongst her enemies quail. The forest outlaw warrior band’s Bard should be at home in the woods, be a skilled warrior but not a specialist in any given weapon, and have some serious misdirection and tactics chops, [I]and[/I] be able to sing a rampaging bear to sleep, turn a crowd against their lord with a few words, and fascinate with song and tale. I guess a rangery subclass of bard would work for that? [/QUOTE]
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