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<blockquote data-quote="Graf" data-source="post: 4492653" data-attributes="member: 3087"><p>[sblock=First blush response about drow history]As originally conceived the Imperium has never been a disfunctional evil drow kingdom. It would be an interesting "secret history" but it potentially could have a big impact on a lot of things.</p><p></p><p>(Like ere13's adventure is supposed to touch upon the Imperium's early history; and of course all the Imperium characters would be effected)</p><p></p><p>Both the drow and the shadar-kai are from the same offshoot of the Eladrin; they were matriarchal goddess worshipers who were excessively punished for their beliefs by the patriarchy and eventually exiled.</p><p></p><p>In exile they fell into demon worship; the shadar-kai escaped by pledging themselves to hadeys and became a gift to his wife.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I kind of like the idea that the drow weren't always "evil people" but got that way through a combination of bad choices, bad luck and things (demons) who took advenatage of their misfortune.</p><p></p><p>In roleplaying terms I felt like it had more kick.... A drow who's good isn't just a "special aberration" they're reclaiming an older tradition. You have someplae to go besides standing Drizzit like, on the fringes emoting about how tortured and hopeless your beautiful near-immortal self is.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>Still most people aren't really interested in mariarchy/patriarchy type stuff; and the idea of the "fall of the drow" having been the result of external social pressures instead of they're-naturally-chaotic-evil is a bit of a departure.</p><p></p><p>I haven't fully digested Halfords ideas as ideas yet. I typed the above mostly so I could identify my own existing biases.</p><p></p><p>Whatever people think is best (provided it doesn't throw ere13 off too badly) I think can be incorporated into the setting.</p><p></p><p>I tend to think that having the drow as a minor force within the Shifting Seas makes sense. It helps ammorialate their evil reputation enough to explain the Temple of Night and Day.</p><p></p><p>I think we have some far realm stuff floating around; I may still be in 3.x mode but I always felt like it was supposed to be the "rarest" of the rare. I see some of the worst mystery cults as tapping into it.</p><p></p><p>[d]--[/d]</p><p></p><p>What if the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/index.php/LEW:The_Twelve_Gods#The_Old_Gods" target="_blank">Old Gods</a> were imprisioned in the far realm? Perhaps it was the only place that could contain Kronos?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Graf, post: 4492653, member: 3087"] [sblock=First blush response about drow history]As originally conceived the Imperium has never been a disfunctional evil drow kingdom. It would be an interesting "secret history" but it potentially could have a big impact on a lot of things. (Like ere13's adventure is supposed to touch upon the Imperium's early history; and of course all the Imperium characters would be effected) Both the drow and the shadar-kai are from the same offshoot of the Eladrin; they were matriarchal goddess worshipers who were excessively punished for their beliefs by the patriarchy and eventually exiled. In exile they fell into demon worship; the shadar-kai escaped by pledging themselves to hadeys and became a gift to his wife. I kind of like the idea that the drow weren't always "evil people" but got that way through a combination of bad choices, bad luck and things (demons) who took advenatage of their misfortune. In roleplaying terms I felt like it had more kick.... A drow who's good isn't just a "special aberration" they're reclaiming an older tradition. You have someplae to go besides standing Drizzit like, on the fringes emoting about how tortured and hopeless your beautiful near-immortal self is.[/sblock] Still most people aren't really interested in mariarchy/patriarchy type stuff; and the idea of the "fall of the drow" having been the result of external social pressures instead of they're-naturally-chaotic-evil is a bit of a departure. I haven't fully digested Halfords ideas as ideas yet. I typed the above mostly so I could identify my own existing biases. Whatever people think is best (provided it doesn't throw ere13 off too badly) I think can be incorporated into the setting. I tend to think that having the drow as a minor force within the Shifting Seas makes sense. It helps ammorialate their evil reputation enough to explain the Temple of Night and Day. I think we have some far realm stuff floating around; I may still be in 3.x mode but I always felt like it was supposed to be the "rarest" of the rare. I see some of the worst mystery cults as tapping into it. [d]--[/d] What if the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/index.php/LEW:The_Twelve_Gods#The_Old_Gods"]Old Gods[/URL] were imprisioned in the far realm? Perhaps it was the only place that could contain Kronos? [/QUOTE]
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