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<blockquote data-quote="amysrevenge" data-source="post: 4098054" data-attributes="member: 61298"><p>It was ALL narritivist, NO gamist.</p><p></p><p>I ran a SAGA campaign for about 6 months. The stories were the same - as good as the effort you put into them, but the game play portion was terrible. The cards were a neat idea, but in play were practically irrelevant as far as actually resolving actions (with a few exceptions, you either would always succeed or always fail at certain actions no matter how the cards were played*). It was fun for a while, but we were jonesing for a real game toward the end. Even 2nd Edition seems fair and balanced in retrospect (and I haven't cracked a 2E book since August 2000).</p><p></p><p>Big Mike</p><p></p><p>*For instance, a Hill Giant used the same statistic for "to hit", damage, (melee) armor class, and hit points. A giant who tried to attack any PC (of any experience level), no matter the cards in the player's hand, could not fail to a) hit every time, and b) kill the PC in a single hit (every time). Conversely, short of getting astronomically lucky with trump cards, a PC would never be able to hit the Giant in melee (but could never, even with the wort cards, fail to hit the Giant with ranged attacks).</p><p></p><p>**I should also note that it has been over 10 years, and my memory may have exaggerated the details - I seriously remember the above anecdote, but it may have been heavily spiced by years of turning over in my mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amysrevenge, post: 4098054, member: 61298"] It was ALL narritivist, NO gamist. I ran a SAGA campaign for about 6 months. The stories were the same - as good as the effort you put into them, but the game play portion was terrible. The cards were a neat idea, but in play were practically irrelevant as far as actually resolving actions (with a few exceptions, you either would always succeed or always fail at certain actions no matter how the cards were played*). It was fun for a while, but we were jonesing for a real game toward the end. Even 2nd Edition seems fair and balanced in retrospect (and I haven't cracked a 2E book since August 2000). Big Mike *For instance, a Hill Giant used the same statistic for "to hit", damage, (melee) armor class, and hit points. A giant who tried to attack any PC (of any experience level), no matter the cards in the player's hand, could not fail to a) hit every time, and b) kill the PC in a single hit (every time). Conversely, short of getting astronomically lucky with trump cards, a PC would never be able to hit the Giant in melee (but could never, even with the wort cards, fail to hit the Giant with ranged attacks). **I should also note that it has been over 10 years, and my memory may have exaggerated the details - I seriously remember the above anecdote, but it may have been heavily spiced by years of turning over in my mind. [/QUOTE]
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