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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 1572165" data-attributes="member: 2855">Just to put forward some correct information here.The new owner of the ICE IP created Aurigas Aldebaron LLC as a holding company for the ICE properties. He then contacted Bruce Neidlinger from the former ICE to see if he would manage this property. (Note: several of the people who bid on the ICE properties contacted former ICE employees about creating a new company to manage the property).Bruce is the CEO of Mjolnir LLC (dba Iron Crown Enterprises). Heike worked for the old ICE off and on for a number of years (she also worked on some AD&D books as well during those years, such as the Book of Lairs - can't remember which one). She is the President of the company, and also Bruce's wife.Steve Hardy and Jason Hawkins were both employees of the old ICE, and being known to Bruce and Heike, were hired as employees for the new ICE. Both have since left and no longer work for the new ICE (Jason moved to another state, IIRC - don't know what happened with Steve). They have been gone for well over a year now.Several others associated with the old ICE work with the new ICE occassionally, but are not full time employees that work out of the office. The only full time employees that the current ICE has are myself as system editor (and many other hats, including pack mule when things need to go to the post office), and my wife who handles customer service and shipping. Neither of us worked for the old ICE.  hehe In fact, I used to be one of the harsher critics of the old ICE before the bankruptcy.The new ICE's Art Director is Jeff Laubenstein (of Earthdawn fame IIRC). Pete Fenlon and Coleman Charlton, two of the owners of the old ICE have never been associated with the new ICE.And BardStephenFox is absolutely correct in regards to how the bakruptcy stuff works. Add to the normal types of creditors that the old ICE had, they also had Tolkien Enterprises which purposely went out of their way to shut down the old ICE for good. (Note: The company that owns TE is the same company that sued John Fogerty for plagiarizing his own song!).All the new ICE can do is to attempt to explain these things to people as they crop up. And before it gets mentioned, putting up all this sort of stuff on the website is not the way to do it. That in itself could cause more harm than good in the long run.</blockquote>

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