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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 6080134" data-attributes="member: 205">I find this example very instructive of the differences in play style, and what people are looking for when they play D&D.  Why?  Because this example of play: I hate it.If this sort of stuff went down at a table I was playing at more than once, I'd leave.  I hate the strategic, spell loadout, "let's look up the weight limits of our stuff!", everyone is referencing books to find new spells to use, style of play.  And this isn't some internet abstraction.  I've been in groups where this has happened.  In one game, the group spent 3 hours trying to figure out a way to get a pile of treasure they discovered while time traveling back to the present.  I almost left then, but I managed to calm down, stayed for one more session (where something similar happened, if not quite as time-intensive), and then politely left the campaign.I know to many people, that's what D&D is all about.  (To borrow <a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?668828-Theory-Flavors-of-D-amp-D" target="_blank">Armchair Gamer's D&D flavors</a>, that's a Simulation and Spellcasters game.)  Since I'm much more in the Paladins and Princesses mindset, to me, it's the antithesis of what D&D should be about.  I want to use my powers. I want to interact with interesting NPCs. I want to fight.  Not fight as a last resort, but fight because there are bad guys that need whupping, and I'm the biggest ass-whupper around.  I don't want to be cautious; I want to assume my character can handle almost anything I throw at him short of pure suicide.I don't want to assume my character is going to die.  Not unless I think it's better for the story that he does.I want to travel the planes, not because I got the right spell, but because the party managed to complete the ritual at the altar of the fallen temple that opened a passageway to Hell.A well run 4e (where the DM and players know that your powers are not the end-all and be-all of your abilities) is the best expression of what I feel D&D should be.</blockquote>

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