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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6081569" data-attributes="member: 22779">However, let's be fair here.  I've seen most players never try anything other than what's on their character sheet in any edition.  The whole, "Let's swing across the room by a chandelier" isn't something that comes up all that much IME, simply because it's almost always a worse option than simply sticking your sword in something.  Very few times does stunting result in any significant advantage, again, IME, and most of the time it's a waste of time.For example, in the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?334145-How-well-can-you-make-your-favourite-character" target="_blank">How Well Can You Make Your Favourite Character</a> thread, people were talking about how they couldn't do what a Warlord does in other editions.  The counter was that you can always stunt actions.  That's true to an extent.But, how many DM's have you ever met who would let a player do this:Player:  I'm going to hit the bad guy, shoving him into Bob's character and Bob is going to get a free swing at the bad guy.Anyone?  Would you allow this to happen in any edition other than 4e?  I know I wouldn't.  Attack, push AND a free attack?  Not a chance.  Yet, this isn't even a stunt in 4e, it's a standard power.  Part of the reason you don't see a lot of stunting in 4e, although I have seen some (mostly pushing people off of things and possibly peeing on them <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />) is that the straight up things your character can do cover a pretty darn broad number of interesting things to do right out of the box.I dunno.  I guess it boils down to what you consider to be a significant advantage.  Daily level damage on something is pretty decent.  But, no, you're not going to be able to blind something permanently.</blockquote>

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