New listings on the WotC 2007 product page!

[delericho]

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As an Economics student, let me take a crack at this.

Thanks for clearing that up.

If President Bush's advisors said that, they're falling victim to the fallacy. There aren't a lot of Economists up there, so it isn't surprising (and wouldn't be the first time), but it's possible you (or they) got confused and said it was making a dangerous comeback.

Indeed. It's also possible that it was people on the other side out to make cheap political gains.[/sblock]

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Well, as an old and rickety gamer who started playing when Carter was in office, I can't help but be interested in Expedition Greyhawk. That said, I sure hope it's done in a way that's sufficiently world-neutral so as to be able to insert it under Ptolus as part of The Dungeon, since my preference is now just to stick with one game world. (Castle Ravenloft, for instance, will be set in the Hotash Mountains of the Prustan Peninsula, north of my current Midwood campaign, all of which is in the same world as Ptolus.)

(EDIT: And the same thing about the module series that includes the Sinister Spire.)

I can see getting the drow book as a DM resource only.

Despite personally being sort of "meh" on clerics, religion has turned out to be really important in my Midwood campaign and I suspect Complete Champion will be quite useful to us.

And I just don't have the time in my stupidly busy life to roll up lots of monsters from scratch, so count me as one of those people not upset about MMV's editorial direction although I'm 100 percent sympathetic to people who would rather have such information in a book called something else instead.

 

[Odhanan]

I am really, really impressed by the titles on 2007's catalog. I can hardly find stuff that wouldn't interest me, provided the material is up to my expectations, of course.

There's some really cool stuff coming out for D&D. Can't wait!

 

[Nyeshet]

Ravenloft - Expedition to Castle Ravenloft
Greyhawk - Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk
Forgotten Realms - Expedition to Undermountain

It seems each setting is getting its own 'Expedition' book (except, possibly, Ebberon, due to its young age as a setting).

I wonder what other (pre-3e) settings might get an 'Expedition' book associated with them?

If Ebberon was to also get one, I wonder what (very) local area would be used? It couldn't be 'Expedition to the Mournlands' - they are too vast for an Expedition book, at least as they currently seem to be designed. But perhaps there is a region within the Mournlands (or elsewhere) that is small enough in scope yet potentially deep enough in depth as to be useful for this type of project? I don't know Ebberon well enough to guess on this one . . . .

 

[Dragonhelm]

That would certainly be my preference. You can easily add levels to the adventure we created, so it is not outside the realm of possibility that you could play a Castle Greyhawk mega-adventure that included levels from "Expedition," "Greyhawk Ruins," and "Castle Zagyg."

Plus Dungeonland and The Land Beyond the Magic Mirror!

If you really hated yourself and your players, you could even throw in a few levels from WG7.

That was actually my introduction to Castle Greyhawk. I know a lot of people don't like it, but I look upon it with fond memories.

 

[Vocenoctum]

That's not how the publishing industry works, so I'm not sure who you're directing this "answer" to. I think many people who aren't Americans would be quite happy if WotC/publishers in general did not state a price on books. (Now, with all that said, in many cases, stores do ignore the (inappropriate) listed price and instead sell for the non-inflated price. But this is hardly universal.)

How do stores ignore the Listed Price if they're paying percentage based on that price? I'm assuming they don't simply take less profit simply to help out their customers.

I don't see a Wizards Canada division, so it's entirely possible that Wizards simply sells to a distributor for X price per copy, and that distributor then sells them to US or Canadian stores as they see fit.

Anyways, as I said - we've covered this already. Why is it so difficult for people to simply accept the already-explained situation? Stop. It.

Simply put, not everyone was involved in the discussion previously, and more importantly, not everyone accepts your information as true and correct. In addition, pronouncements from "on high" generally don't carry much weight on the internet, it's usually nice to quantify information rather than simply assuming folks will take your word for it.

Even in the other thread, it was never established who gets the "extra cut" from the miscalculation of the expenses for trading to Canada, except by Pronouncement.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Ravenloft - Expedition to Castle Ravenloft
Greyhawk - Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk
Forgotten Realms - Expedition to Undermountain

It seems each setting is getting its own 'Expedition' book (except, possibly, Ebberon, due to its young age as a setting).

I wonder what other (pre-3e) settings might get an 'Expedition' book associated with them?

If Ebberon was to also get one, I wonder what (very) local area would be used? It couldn't be 'Expedition to the Mournlands' - they are too vast for an Expedition book, at least as they currently seem to be designed. But perhaps there is a region within the Mournlands (or elsewhere) that is small enough in scope yet potentially deep enough in depth as to be useful for this type of project? I don't know Ebberon well enough to guess on this one . . . .

Expedition to WhiteHearth could be a VERY nice adventure, but I doubt it. There're plenty of ruins dotting the landscape, but XenDrik is full of them. None have a true "emotional resonance" like Greyhawk or Ravenloft.

(Also, no Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Spelljammer...)

I like Ravenloft a lot, but the series seems to come more to "Expedition to Buzzword" than any setting ties.

I look forward to the Eberron stuff, Champion should be nice, not too much else is a Must Buy for me.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Mystara has enough classic locations to merit an Expedition. Keep on the Borderlands was the game's seminal introductory adventure for almost 10 years (squeaking out those of us who started games with T1 pretty quickly -- wasn't it included in one of the boxed sets for a while, in fact?). Although there's already been a Return to the Keep on the Borderlands, there's also been oodles of versions of I6 already, and that didn't prevent an Expedition to Castle Ravenloft. If Mystara only gets one Expedition, I vote that it be an Expedition to the Keep on the Borderlands.

(Other good choices would be the Isle of Dread and Castle Amber.)

And an Expedition to Thunder Rift could be a setting-in-a-book and very welcome for new DMs.

 

[megamania]

This morning I swore I would cut down on my DnD spending.... then I find this.


Oye! I need a third job from the looks of things.....

 

[Cthulhudrew]

I actually wouldn't mind seeing an Expedition to the Palace of the Silver Princess- taking the best parts of both the green module and the pulled from print orange module (which had quite a bit of differences from the other). While it's not as classic a module as either B2 or X2 for D&D, I think it is a pretty familiar sight, if only due to the controversy.

For kicks, WotC could produce a limited copy special cover for it.