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[Knightfall]

No news on Dungeonscape?

Dungeonscape comes out in February.

 

[Nyeshet]

Planescape - Expedition to the Demonweb Pits

But aren't the Demonweb Pits part of the Faerun altered cosmology instead of the former Planescape cosmology? That would suggest it to be a planar FR expedition book instead of a Planescape expedition book. Of course, it could also be said to be a planar expedition book in general, I suppose . . .

 

[Swordsage]

I'd like to point out that unlike FR novels, Eberron novels are all non-canon. You can put them in your game if you want, but there's no metaplot - Eberron stays at 998 YK.

For now. Wait for the "Drizzt of Eberron" to appear and tha almighty clamour for stats that will ensue. Eberron will go the way of FR - it's inevitable.

The Swordsage

 

[Harker Wade]

New Expeditions to...

Since all the ols settings are getting a book I would surely love to see ones for Spelljammer and Darksun.

Spelljammer - Expedition to Bral, to the Spelljammer, to Space Hamsters

Darksun - Expedition to .... I only really remember the names of some of the sorcerer-kings and a few of the cities... hmmm

 

[Pants]

But aren't the Demonweb Pits part of the Faerun altered cosmology instead of the former Planescape cosmology? That would suggest it to be a planar FR expedition book instead of a Planescape expedition book. Of course, it could also be said to be a planar expedition book in general, I suppose . . .

The Demonweb Pits are a layer of the Abyss (in PS).

 

[Vocenoctum]

But aren't the Demonweb Pits part of the Faerun altered cosmology instead of the former Planescape cosmology? That would suggest it to be a planar FR expedition book instead of a Planescape expedition book. Of course, it could also be said to be a planar expedition book in general, I suppose . . .

They predate FR by quite a bit, and the Demonweb pits have always been some sort of level of the Abyss.

 

[Nyeshet]

The Demonweb Pits are a layer of the Abyss (in PS).

Ahh, I see. I wonder, though, how the writers of the book will deal with the discrepancies in cosmologies. Will they treat it as a 'typical' Abyss planar adventure (if such could ever be considered 'typical') and have a half page describing the differences if it were occurring in the FR cosmology, or will it presume the latter and have descriptions on how to use it in a more generic setting? Somehow I'm guessing the former rather than the latter. It would be interesting to see where they think it should be placed it it were played in ebberon, however.

 

[Faraer]

It needn't be relevant to the adventure whether the Demonweb its considered its own plane or part of the Abyss. Incidentally I think, and Ed Greenwood agrees, that the AD&D and new Realms 'cosmologies' are better seen as two mortal interpretations of the planes than as two actual different planar structures.

They predate FR by quite a bit, and the Demonweb pits have always been some sort of level of the Abyss.

No, the Realms is about ten years older.

 

[Vocenoctum]

No, the Realms is about ten years older.

Publishing wise, Queen of the Demonweb Pits is 1980, Bloodstone (FR) is 1985 and boxed set 87, at least according to Wiki. Either may have existed before then, but no way to give exact dates.

 

[Erik Mona]

I think he's referring to the somewhat shaky idea that since Ed imagined a few of the characters from the Forgotten Realms as a child, the whole setting as a creative enterprise predates first edition D&D.

I'm not sure I buy it, but it's an argument I've seen posited more than a few times online.

--Erik