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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9056429" data-attributes="member: 87792">Well, the rogue got a glow-up. And actually look fun in combat, with Advantage basically being an assumed property unless you mess up. (I count a handful of builds: Shortsword/Scimitar, Shortbow + Rapier (what happened to the hand crossbow?), or with Dual Wielder twin daggers or rapier and scimitar (or possibly rapier and dagger).  Surprised they nerfed the Gloom Stalker so badly. Cunning strikes almost brings back the 4e rogue - or at least the thief.Druid's a huge improvement over 2014. The "overcoat of temp hp" is still around - but the moon druid is a whole lot less oppressive. At level 2 they can't do Broken Moon Druid Stuff because they're just a normal druid, and at levels 3-4 the brown bear and dire wolf only give 15-20 temp hp rather than 35ish. Still obnoxious but no longer a broken piece of junk that should never have seen print. Sea Druid - excellent.Cleric: Divine Order is a whole lot less interesting, but first level makes sense. Bard - I need more playtesting with this forked bard. It feels like a simple, generic, and not terribly good solution to say "any one list until L10 then all three". College of Dance is a good concept that looks decently executed.Monk - looks like an improvement. I think maces are going to get popular for monks; Sap is good. Four Elements looks both fun and above all functional - which the old one wasn't. Uncertain about Shadow as it's removed two of the big things (Pass Without Trace and Silence) but probably for the best. And the soggy middle has been hardened a little; level 7 gives you extra offence and level 13 gives you something good as well. They still have the Martial problem of getting less with the feat levels than casters do (i.e. no new spells).Paladin: Ehh. This is polishing and niche protection from the cleric (which they needed). I'm concerned about the sheer resilience of Lay On Hands as a bonus action.Ranger: Yes, Hunter's Mark needed the concentration return if it was going to work with Nick. And a bit of fluffy ribbon abilities are good. Not sure gloom stalker needed such a nerf. Or hunter needed to follow the principle "At higher levels pick an ability that wasn't good enough at lower levels"</blockquote>

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