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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9058550" data-attributes="member: 87792">That's the problem. The fighter is currently a supernumerary. There isn't just one way to fix this. I see two:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ignore combat balance. Combat is where the fighter is king - and the fighter gets at least a 50% damage buff so their weapons do more realistic damage and adds their proficiency to AC so it's useful. The fighter is "realistic" - but when fighting a fighter they bring their foes into their world<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Subclass: The Mundane. At low level they get things like advantage on saves vs magic. At high level they bring everyone else into their world and start enforcing realistic physics on dragons that get too close.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Let the fighter into the same world as everyone else. Where at tier 2 they do get to kick iron doors off their hinges and possibly leap small buildings in a single bound. And by tier 4 can kick in the gates of hell and arm wrestle the Tarrasque</li> </ul>Frankly I don't care which answer is chosen. But as things stand (and, worse, as you wish to make them) the fighter is a realistic person in a gonzo world, and a fish out of water with none of the advantages.</blockquote>