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<blockquote data-quote="Cruentus" data-source="post: 9059054" data-attributes="member: 7034645">I thought that was the assumption about how all the characters were to be treated by everything? I was cautiously following the changes that WOTC was putting forth, and was happy for some of what I was seeing, and became a little optimistic, since I had already dropped 5e to step back to older editions.&nbsp; Then they started walking it back, and buffing some more, and not really addressing the things our group had issues with, and now I'm back to not going to touch it, not even as a source to pull interesting mechanics, because, as far as I can tell, there is no innovation.&nbsp; And I get it, &quot;biggest RPG&quot;, &quot;keeping users&quot;, etc., but they'll shed them just as well, or not get them back.&nbsp; I feel like I did with Next, where the last playtest stuff was interesting, and then we got the actual PHB, which didn't look like the last playtest(s)... All IMO, obviously.&nbsp; YMMV, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cruentus, post: 9059054, member: 7034645"] I thought that was the assumption about how [B]all[/B] the characters were to be treated by everything? I was cautiously following the changes that WOTC was putting forth, and was happy for some of what I was seeing, and became a little optimistic, since I had already dropped 5e to step back to older editions. Then they started walking it back, and buffing some more, and not really addressing the things our group had issues with, and now I'm back to not going to touch it, not even as a source to pull interesting mechanics, because, as far as I can tell, there is no innovation. And I get it, "biggest RPG", "keeping users", etc., but they'll shed them just as well, or not get them back. I feel like I did with Next, where the last playtest stuff was interesting, and then we got the actual PHB, which didn't look like the last playtest(s)... All IMO, obviously. YMMV, etc. [/QUOTE]

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