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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9065588" data-attributes="member: 7006">This is a very astute point.If we go over to the Ranger thread, we can see all kinds of people fully in weeds over things like Favored Enemy and Natural Explorer.  Some think you can't be a Ranger without them, while others think they are meaningless abilities that should be ditched.  And should abilities like these disappear, then some people are going to say the Ranger has "completely changed" or is "no longer a Ranger".  And yet you look at the class with or without those abilities and compare it to a wilderness focused character in 7th Sea (for example) and you can pretty much say that yeah, those two D&D Rangers are practically the same.I acknowledge that for some people, getting that far down into the weeds about all these parts of D&D is the point.  But that's also why none of those individuals will ever be happy, because the people who design the game and fill out the surveys almost never are that far into the weeds as that person and they just won't care.</blockquote>