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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 9065589" data-attributes="member: 12731">Yes, but that's a poor argument in favor of this particular level of (non-)change.You make it sound like the testing and user involvement and WotCs desire to not ruffle even a single feather will result in this perfect edition. It won't. Not daring to tell users "no" will create D&D 5.01. At best. A rehash where loads of frustrating and mediocre stuff will be left unfixed. Nothing more and nothing less.Likely this upcoming edition will be remembered much like 3.5 is remembered. As something that didn't really fix any of the fundamental shortcomings of the edition, and mostly meant having to relearn a lot of details with only surface-level improvements, most of which just shifted the problem areas around.Something WotC can use to coast another 5 or 10 years before having to actually endure any type of pain in order to really fix things. I mean in the way the comprehensive and thorough reimagining of 3E that was 5E actually did fix several of the fundamental issues of d20. Where WotC proved they actually could provide meaningful improvement, even if they did it only on the verge of financial ruin.</blockquote>