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<blockquote data-quote="Anarchclown" data-source="post: 8985222" data-attributes="member: 61739"><p>Warning nerd rant incoming.</p><p></p><p>When people make statements about how rapier and dagger (which was an actual thing) should be behind a feat tax, but two short swords (where no one can even fully explain what a short sword actually is) should not be behind a feat because they are light (even though they weigh the same as a rapier and two short swords weigh more than rapier+dagger in the game) even though very few records of two stabbing (piercing) short blades being used exist at all. My brain hurts.</p><p></p><p>Biomechanics aren't just willed away. I get complete fantasy elements like having the Cloudstryfe sword because you think it is cool or being able to fly. Heck I even accept the extremely stupid double edged blade having come into existence due to Darth Maul and similar nonsense. I just don't actually know who grew up having the fantasy of "I wish I could dual wield two short stunted unwieldly stabby blades" and whether there are more of them than there are of people reading and watching fiction and historical accounts wanting to wield rapier and dagger or for that matter rapier and cloak or rapier and hat.</p><p></p><p>P.S. I claim a short sword is unwieldly because a 2 pound blade that is a dedicated stabbing sword might be a gladius that pretty much stopped being used about 1000 years before the rapier was invented because it was short, specialized at stabbing through hardened leather armor that no one used and just generally kind of crap in comparison to other later swords. It wasn't a stylistic choice, it was a "there are better longer swords around" choice. The small sword which was the lightweight civilian development of the rapier weighed under a pound. Meanwhile the rapier actually most often actually weighed closer to 3 pounds, but that's a different story.</p><p></p><p>TL: DR version. The rapier + dagger should definitely be a core option if the rapier is supposed to exist as an option at all, the two short swords option is weird as heck and doesn't need to even exist at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anarchclown, post: 8985222, member: 61739"] Warning nerd rant incoming. When people make statements about how rapier and dagger (which was an actual thing) should be behind a feat tax, but two short swords (where no one can even fully explain what a short sword actually is) should not be behind a feat because they are light (even though they weigh the same as a rapier and two short swords weigh more than rapier+dagger in the game) even though very few records of two stabbing (piercing) short blades being used exist at all. My brain hurts. Biomechanics aren't just willed away. I get complete fantasy elements like having the Cloudstryfe sword because you think it is cool or being able to fly. Heck I even accept the extremely stupid double edged blade having come into existence due to Darth Maul and similar nonsense. I just don't actually know who grew up having the fantasy of "I wish I could dual wield two short stunted unwieldly stabby blades" and whether there are more of them than there are of people reading and watching fiction and historical accounts wanting to wield rapier and dagger or for that matter rapier and cloak or rapier and hat. P.S. I claim a short sword is unwieldly because a 2 pound blade that is a dedicated stabbing sword might be a gladius that pretty much stopped being used about 1000 years before the rapier was invented because it was short, specialized at stabbing through hardened leather armor that no one used and just generally kind of crap in comparison to other later swords. It wasn't a stylistic choice, it was a "there are better longer swords around" choice. The small sword which was the lightweight civilian development of the rapier weighed under a pound. Meanwhile the rapier actually most often actually weighed closer to 3 pounds, but that's a different story. TL: DR version. The rapier + dagger should definitely be a core option if the rapier is supposed to exist as an option at all, the two short swords option is weird as heck and doesn't need to even exist at all. [/QUOTE]
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