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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8994354" data-attributes="member: 93670">..That's a nice theory, but 5e fights that kind of collaboration in stark contrast to past editions where players were incentivized to collaborate with the gm by things like rltge system not minimizing or outright removing risk, attrition, magic item needs, sometimes difficult to meet prerequisites, & so on. Now the baseline is already well below the feet of even the most inept negative charop as the earlierentioned longsword & shield barbarian demonstrated.  The result of that GiGo baseline math is that collaboration you are advocating for can't  begin without some form of nerfs to pc power to ensure the well of good will is poisoned before collaboration can even begin to assess how much space exists to add power. [ATTACH=full]282133[/ATTACH]</blockquote>