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<blockquote data-quote="Manabarbs" data-source="post: 6105575" data-attributes="member: 6717251">I agree. I hope that between now and release the oaths are pumped up in their effects. I wouldn't mind giving them a second spell at each level (potentially narrowing down the field of &quot;universal&quot; spells quite a bit in the process), and I still like the idea that they get something analogous to warden forms (although fewer of them, obviously).As far as potential oath ideas (with suggested alignments, which I think are more useful than Always Lawful Good) -- Lawful Neutral &quot;Justicar&quot; Gray Knight type. Can either be portrayed as a grim, unyielding hand of justice or as more of a champion of civilization type.- Split the Blackguard up into a fiendish-type and an undeath-type (Pale Knight), and potentially into a third tyrrany-type, if that's not too much splitting.- Chaotic Good &quot;Paladin of Freedom&quot; type.- Like the Dragon Knight idea- Maybe a Chaotic marauding type. I know that that doesn't really correspond to as many thing as we normally think of, but I think people like symmetry.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manabarbs, post: 6105575, member: 6717251"] I agree. I hope that between now and release the oaths are pumped up in their effects. I wouldn't mind giving them a second spell at each level (potentially narrowing down the field of "universal" spells quite a bit in the process), and I still like the idea that they get something analogous to warden forms (although fewer of them, obviously). As far as potential oath ideas (with suggested alignments, which I think are more useful than Always Lawful Good) - - Lawful Neutral "Justicar" Gray Knight type. Can either be portrayed as a grim, unyielding hand of justice or as more of a champion of civilization type. - Split the Blackguard up into a fiendish-type and an undeath-type (Pale Knight), and potentially into a third tyrrany-type, if that's not too much splitting. - Chaotic Good "Paladin of Freedom" type. - Like the Dragon Knight idea - Maybe a Chaotic marauding type. I know that that doesn't really correspond to as many thing as we normally think of, but I think people like symmetry. [/QUOTE]

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