D&D 5E New Paladin Oaths

[gyor]

What new Paladin Oaths would you like to see?

Some ideas

Holy Liberator, Chaotic Good Knight with a Che/Revolutionary twist. Pegasi Mount.

Ruby Knight- Inspired by the Ruby Paladins of Sune, the only Chaotic Deity pre 4e that was allowed to have Paladins. These Red Knights would be Chaotic Neutral, Chaotic Good, and Chaotic Neutral and focused on Passions of all sorts from Love to Lust to Rage and Hate. Red Unicorn Mount.

Avenger- Instead of using Heavy armour would get armour of faith. Any alignment. Oath of enimity channel divinity. Mount not sure.

This assumes that they continue to force alignment restrictions on oaths, which I hope they stop doing.

Also I'd replace Turn Undead for a semipolymoprh effect on Warden's channel divinity.

 

[DonAdam]

Chaotic Good Knight with a Che/Revolutionary twist.

Really?

 

[gyor]

Yeah, that's how I pictured the holy liberator a knightly verison of Che.

 

[Manabarbs]

I think you can have associated alignments without having mandatory alignments. Like, the Blackguard is clearly designed (well, should be clearly designed; it currently is not) with the idea of "evil" in mind, but Blackguards don't have to be capital-E evil, just sort of evil-ish.

I love love love love love the idea of importing the semi-polymorph from the warden and making that a general paladin class feature. I think that's a lot cooler than anything else they've got going on in the class now. I don't think Next is likely to go down the many-choices-of-forms road, nor do I think it necessarily should, but you could give each oath maybe one form that improves a few times during their progression. (So a LG-ish paladin might begin with an angelic aspect that adds a bit of radiant damage and zaps people who try to bash his friends, and finish with one that goes full-on wings and halo and I'm just blinding you with my awesome angelic ascension form pew pew oh man this is awesome.) If they're feeling really ambitious, they could even fork the forms a little bit, give you a few options in terms of how you want to improve it.

 

[jrowland]

Really?

I'll second that "really?"


Che as a Chaotic Good Revolutionary?

I can hear the rallying cry of the Che the Paladin now: Individuals for Social Conformity!

 

[steeldragons]

Forgive the ignorance and complete irrelevance to the discussion...but what is this "Che"?

 

[mlund]

Forgive the ignorance and complete irrelevance to the discussion...but what is this "Che"?

They're talking about a charismatic, photogenic, mass-murdering Argentinian Marxist Revolutionary who helped install the current dictatorship over Cuba in the name of "Liberation" - Che Guevera. Ironically, they sell T-Shirts with his face on them in capitalist markets and kids wear them around.

- Marty Lund

 

[DonAdam]

I'm tempted to make a coffee talk joke about a certain figure being neither chaotic nor good. But I won't, so please don't discuss (given board protocol).

 

[gyor]

Che might not be the best example, perhaps Hugo Chavez would be a better one. Democractically elected, massively reduced poverty in his country and decreased the power of the Elites, and encourage power at the grassroots level instead.

I know some associate Chaotic Good with Ayn Randism, but I've always seen it more as Libertarian Socialism touched with ethical hedonism. To me Ayn Rand represents evil at its most seductive.

 

[Lackhand]

Still not gonna touch the actual-real-world-political metaphors.

They are prohibited, last I checked, and tend to get flamey.

How about we say "Robin Hood" instead -- not robin-hood-qua-robin-hood, since he's all bows-and-woodsmen, but the kind of rob-the-rich-pay-the-poor that works out exceptionally well when the rich are actually moustache-twirlingly Lawful Evil in alignment.

I'd like to see a Minerva (defender of civilization-style) figure to dual the Green Knight thing they've got going.

I'd like to see a dragon-knight. It's going to happen, might as well embrace it, give an upgrade path for those Dragonborn Chaladins from 4e