new races need help with the ECLs

[Bean 2.0]

Angelis
+2 wis
Size : medium
Speed: 30ft. Fly : 50 ft/average manuverability
lowlight vision
+2 on spot checks
Favored class : Fighter

The Angelis are a race of humanoids with feathery bird-like wings (hence the name). they are proud of their martial prowess and divine magic. They use their wings to full advantage in a fight prefering to flank or otherwise out manuver opponents. they tend toward lawful with a strong streak of good.

Note : Armor for Angelis needs to be adapted for their wings This costs half again the price of the armor excluding magical or psionic enhancements

ecl +1 for now


Ronso
+4 str +2 con -2 int -2 cha
size : large
Reach 10 ft
speed 40ft
natural armor +2
Darkvision (60 ft)
+2 wilderness lore
When charging a ronso may use its horn to deal 1d6 +1 & 1/2 its strenth modifier
Favored class : barbarian

ronso are big cat-like people of the frozen mountains. Their size , blue to black fur , and long sharp horn make them stick out in a crowd. Their culture is tribal with Barbarian/Druids
or Ranger/Druid being their most common leaders. They are usualy neutral but tend towards Chaos over law.

I'mthinking an ecl of +2
and yes these were inspired by the ronso of FFX

Al-bhed
+2 int -2 wis
size : medium
speed : 40 ft
+2 on use magic/psionic device checks
lowlight vision
bvonus feat and skills as normal humans
favored class : rogue

Al-bhed are quick and cunning but they lack will-power and insight. They love to mess around with ancient items and tech. Their eyes are often two different colors on the same individual.

My geuss is ecl +1
these are also based off FFX

Positars
+2 wis +2 cha
size : medium
speed : 30 ft
Native outsiders
darkvision (60 ft)
Acid, fire & sonic resistance 5
Cure moderate wounds 1/day as a cleric of their character level
Clerical focus - A positar cleric must channel positive energy This does not affect normal spell casting it merely means that positar clerics may only turn/destroy undead and spontaniously cast cure spells.
+2 on diplomacy checks
Favored class - cleric

Positars are plane-touched with ties to the positive energy plane. They prefer simple lives of helping others and quiet contemplation ,but they undestand the importance of being able to protect that life. They look human but often have a few traits linking them to their ancestors plane such as whitish-yellow eyes, or hair that floats.

ecl +1 maybe

Negisings
+2 wis +2 cha
size : medium
speed: 30 ft
Native outsider
Darkvision (60 ft)
cold, acid & electricity resistance 5
inflict moderate wounds 1/day as a cleric of their character level
+2 on sense motive checks
Clerical focus - A negising cleric must negative energy this has no effect on normal spell casting it simply means that Negising Clerics may only rebuke/command undead and spontaniously cast inflict spells
Favored class - cleric

Negisings are plane-touched tied to the negative energy plane. They are commanding and prefer to be in charge. They are insightful into the way of others and hard to fool. They can be deadly enemies if angered, or great allies if treated with respect. They seem human except for a few possible traits such as coal black eyes or hair that floats.

+1 ecl

 

[Spatzimaus]

One nitpick: you didn't specify bonus languages for each race. Also, night vision is pretty common, and you only mentioned it for the Outsider races.

Angelis: They have NO special abilities other than flight? As much as I hate to say it, that'd be ECL 0, except that on general principle I'd bump it to +1 since flight is so incredibly useful. You've given them a WIS bonus (and remember that core races don't get bonuses to spellcasting stats, so these guys would make great Clerics). Compare to Human: trade the extra skill points, bonus Feat, and Favored: Any for flight.

Frankly, I think you should make them more interesting. If they're winged, say that they require specially-fitted armor (+50% cost), can't wear heavy armor at all, can't fly in medium armor (I think that was from DotF in the barding-on-flying-mounts discussion), give them some skill modifiers (spot?), and maybe low-light vision to make them a clean ECL +1 race. Flight is cool and all, but a level 5 Wizard can fly without wings and much better speed, so upping their Fly speed to maybe 50' should be okay.

Ronso: adding one size makes ECL +1 (I'm using Soldarin's system). The horn thing is a minor ability. The stats almost zero out (+0.2), although for fighter-types there's no real drawback. The bigger question is, as a Large creature, do they have 10' natural reach? If so, ECL +3 at least. If not, they'd be a high +1 (+2 if you added darkvision and a couple skill bonuses)

Al-bhed:
+0.2 for increased movement. Stats zero out, except of course that if you take Wizard you come out far ahead. Since they duplicate the other Human abilities except for class, they're definitely not 0 ECL; I'd say +1 ECL.

Positar:
They really ARE just like Aasimar, aren't they? I'd say fine as +1, although I don't quite get how that Focus ability works, is it just the limitation that you can't take any deity that'd force you to inflict? What about casting Harm?

Negisings:
see above

 

[Bean 2.0]

You can't fly with a madium load the armor only counts toward wieght it might slow you down a bit but as long as your carrying a light load you can fly. thanks for the comments I've updated accordingly

 

[Technik4]

Ok, as Spatzimaus said the angelis class needs something. May I suggest switching the -2 Cha to a +2 Cha. Now they have 2 bonuses (like aasimar) and flight instead of light. Granted most of the time, flight is more powerful, but as was mentioned at higher levels both abilities are somewhat moot, plus the speed isnt as high as magic items.

Ronso look good.

Al-bhed: Ok, as written these are way weaker than a tiefling. I would suggest giving +2 Int, -2 Wis, +2 Cha. Ah, noticed they get stuff like humans...ok I guess they are Ok.

Technik

 

[Kinomen Dragoon]

BUT these are all remakes of other things people put up. For one thing Bean only made the ronso to compet with my cat people.

Just my .02
And a merry holiday to the both of you

 

[Bean 2.0]

WHAT !!!

For starters post a link to back yourself up I have never seen any-one post the negative/positive energy plane-touched any-where else so even if someone already posted them these are still my Ideas ,and even if they were remakes what difference does that make .Same goes for the angelis. Second I'm pretty sure some-one has posted versions of the Ronso and Al-bhed but hey again these are my ideas for them.

Also my Ronso are much more thought out than your cat people, which didn't cross my mind. Also your cat titan PrC is way broken and lacks developement or thought. you just slapped the ability to use bigger weapons on top of a bunch of ability bonuses that really don't help the flavor of the PrC strech out the bigger weapon proficiency cut the wis and dex bonuses and slow the con and str bonuses

technik I alreasy factored in Spatz's ideas but if you have any more specifics feel free to tell me. If I switched the Angelis's cha penalty to a bonus would it still rate a +1 ecl

 

[CRGreathouse]

Re: WHAT !!!

BUT these are all remakes of other things people put up. For one thing Bean only made the ronso to compet with my cat people.

For starters post a link to back yourself up I have never seen any-one post the negative/positive energy plane-touched any-where else so even if someone already posted them these are still my Ideas ,and even if they were remakes what difference does that make .Same goes for the angelis. Second I'm pretty sure some-one has posted versions of the Ronso and Al-bhed but hey again these are my ideas for them.

Also my Ronso are much more thought out than your cat people, which didn't cross my mind. Also your cat titan PrC is way broken and lacks developement or thought. you just slapped the ability to use bigger weapons on top of a bunch of ability bonuses that really don't help the flavor of the PrC strech out the bigger weapon proficiency cut the wis and dex bonuses and slow the con and str bonuses

CRGreathouse makes a Bluff check (untrained ) to seem like a mod.

Be nice... there's no reason to throw around accusations or insult others' work. A bit of respect goes a long way!

 

[Darkness]

Re: Re: WHAT !!!

CRGreathouse makes a Bluff check (untrained ) to seem like a mod.

Be nice... there's no reason to throw around accusations or insult others' work. A bit of respect goes a long way!

Darkness makes a Bluff check (+17 bonus ) to...

Hey, wait a minute!

Anyway - what he said: Be nice, folks, ok?

 

[Bean 2.0]

I still think the Al-bhed & Angelis might be missing something and the negisings definetly need a new name

 

[Kosh]

If Ronso are Large, then the stat mods are way off...

Take a look at the size advancement chart in the MM... Also take a look at the Ogre; it is just a Large Orc with a little twist...

If you use the MM size chart and keep all the current abilities (Strength would be +10, Con +4, etc.) then I would say this is a ECL 4/5 race...

Fast speed, reach, gore, high strength... All this adds up for one incredible Charge...