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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3569750" data-attributes="member: 326">Thanks for the support Pssthpok! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Hey Phantom Llama dude! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />- Fast Movement...hardly a major selling point, is it?- Improved Toughness...I just added that.- Damage Reduction...isn't proactive, you don't 'roleplay' damage reduction.- Feat Selection...I don't even think there are any barbarian specific feats in the PHB.- Prestige Classes...You shouldn't have to rely on Prestige Classes, the core Classes should be able to sell themselves and be interesting enough to warrant being chosen - otherwise they are a waste of space.Rage is the only proactive element to the barbarian class. I added Roar and Summon Ancestral spirits which are both proactive and tactical. Bloodstrike is also tactical.Thats like saying they have to be boring. It doesn't make any sense. Why play a boring class when you could play an exciting class!?No ones trying to do that. But what I am trying to do, is give people enough interesting facets to the core classes that they don't get bored with it and feel they NEED to segue into a Prestige Class. They still can of course, but if the barbarian keeps getting interesting abilities they might decide to keep playing one.I'm wracking my brains trying to think of a barbarian culture that didn't venerate their ancestors: the Celts did, the Norse did, the Native Americans did...?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> I don't think its so far fetched that its out of place. I guess we can just disagree on whether the core classes should be 'kewl' or not."ROOOOOAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />So you think a 1st-level Barbarian should be able to read and write?Okay.I like the idea that a barbarian could channel their rage into new abilities. However, I am starting to agree with you and WarDragon that maybe it doesn't gel well with the barbarian core concept, working better as a sort of Barbarian-style-Shadowdancer-type Prestige Class.</blockquote>

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