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<blockquote data-quote="Ltheb Silverfrond" data-source="post: 3569806" data-attributes="member: 39867">I completely agree on this point. 3E/3.5 lost touch with what the original concept of a prestige class was: Giving up general abilities and focusing on a more narrow set of abilities. The problem with 3E/3.5 is that almost none of the PRCs printed in the last 5 years or so follow that ideal. They let you focus a specific area, while still allowing you to be general. In essence, there is no downside to many classes. Why play just a barbarian when a Frenzied Berserker is a&nbsp; 1 man army? Why be a cleric when Radiant servant of Pelor does everything cleric does and tons more? A gag I heard on someone's D&amp;D site: &quot;The last 10 levels of Rogue are called 'Assassin'.&quot; Making base classes that are competitive &amp; more interesting, like U_K's revised barbarian idea is a great idea. Granted, not all of the classes need revising (Druid, Cleric, Wizard - Spellcasting is&nbsp; enough) but others (Sorcerer) sorely need it. There is a reason there has only ever been 1 serious sorcerer played in my games in the last 5 years. (and he died. Death via Cthulhu) Tons of Barbarians, at least 1 per game. Scores of Wizards. 1 single sorcerer. Coolest character in the party, but easily the weakest, even with numerous concessions made in his favor.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ltheb Silverfrond, post: 3569806, member: 39867"] I completely agree on this point. 3E/3.5 lost touch with what the original concept of a prestige class was: Giving up general abilities and focusing on a more narrow set of abilities. The problem with 3E/3.5 is that almost none of the PRCs printed in the last 5 years or so follow that ideal. They let you focus a specific area, while still allowing you to be general. In essence, there is no downside to many classes. Why play just a barbarian when a Frenzied Berserker is a 1 man army? Why be a cleric when Radiant servant of Pelor does everything cleric does and tons more? A gag I heard on someone's D&D site: "The last 10 levels of Rogue are called 'Assassin'." Making base classes that are competitive & more interesting, like U_K's revised barbarian idea is a great idea. Granted, not all of the classes need revising (Druid, Cleric, Wizard - Spellcasting is enough) but others (Sorcerer) sorely need it. There is a reason there has only ever been 1 serious sorcerer played in my games in the last 5 years. (and he died. Death via Cthulhu) Tons of Barbarians, at least 1 per game. Scores of Wizards. 1 single sorcerer. Coolest character in the party, but easily the weakest, even with numerous concessions made in his favor. [/QUOTE]

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