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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3586077" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi Xzoltar mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I sort of see what you mean, but thats more a testament to the fact that the Monk didn't need that much work to be honest.One thing I sort of left out at the 11th hour was Ki [Effect]. Which would have come in at epic levels, and made for a more DragonballZ type martial artist.Another idea I left out was for monk ability score bonuses to be gained at every 2 levesl rather than every 4.Glad you like them.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I would only suggest you allow those with a market modifier rather than those with a cost modifier.Well I think the Wizard works out at roughly 86 feats worth, while my revised Fighter works out at about 78 (so it still needs a bit of work; 80+ is the target figure). Also the martial classes are more dependant upon magic items of course.I don't really see what could be done to bring the Wizard into line other than removing their bonus feats. The way I would work that would be to allow metamagic for free, as I do metamartial maneouvres.The cleric needs to have its HD dropped to d6 and its Good Fortitude save removed.The Rogue is next, and it does need major work. I have increased HD to d8's, but it still needs something like 33 feats worth of class features. Taking into account that sneak attack is 10 of these (by 20th-level) and you have a massive 23 feats to play about with. Thats more than one feat per level on top of the sneak attack damage.I have a few ideas at this point, but I think I am going to be struggling to fill all of them. So if anyone has any ideas, feel free to chime in. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Areas I am currently exploring will be the ability to Test Your Luck, and some Sneak Attack variants (although you could easily handle the latter with metamartial maneouvres). Dodge and Self-Concealment may also have to play a part.Lets get the Core Classes done and dusted and then we can worry about Soul Knife and stuff like that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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