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<blockquote data-quote="TheThirdFlash" data-source="post: 7684136" data-attributes="member: 6803278"><p>There's no racial justification for making paladins a "human only" class though. Yes, it was human only until 3e, but largely, that was a design decision, which is why it was done away with. </p><p></p><p>As far as shining examples of goodness, I don't know how much fiction you've read for the FR, but most elves, especially gold elves, are haughty pricks. And very xenophobic. Not exactly my idea of a shining example of goodness. There is evidence in the fiction that the gold elves that interbred with demons to become the fey'ri continued to teach the bladesong to their own people. But that's an exception in fiction that has a reason, not a reason to break the game rules as written. </p><p></p><p>While you are correct, I didn't play 4e. I only read some of the material regarding the swordmage and bladesinger classes. And that's perfectly legitimate statement. However, having read the Swordmage book, I get the strong impression that he learned this art from the elves in Cormanthyr. It felt like he, as a human, was taught some rudimentary bladesinger techniques, but it never felt like he was a true master of it. So in that, you are correct. He was a 4e Swordmage, not a 4e Bladesinger.</p><p></p><p>There weren't many other game examples of a fighter/mage class other than the bladesinger in prior editions. It wasn't until Pathfinder introduced the Magus and 4e gave you the variety of classes, that we had more to work with for games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheThirdFlash, post: 7684136, member: 6803278"] There's no racial justification for making paladins a "human only" class though. Yes, it was human only until 3e, but largely, that was a design decision, which is why it was done away with. As far as shining examples of goodness, I don't know how much fiction you've read for the FR, but most elves, especially gold elves, are haughty pricks. And very xenophobic. Not exactly my idea of a shining example of goodness. There is evidence in the fiction that the gold elves that interbred with demons to become the fey'ri continued to teach the bladesong to their own people. But that's an exception in fiction that has a reason, not a reason to break the game rules as written. While you are correct, I didn't play 4e. I only read some of the material regarding the swordmage and bladesinger classes. And that's perfectly legitimate statement. However, having read the Swordmage book, I get the strong impression that he learned this art from the elves in Cormanthyr. It felt like he, as a human, was taught some rudimentary bladesinger techniques, but it never felt like he was a true master of it. So in that, you are correct. He was a 4e Swordmage, not a 4e Bladesinger. There weren't many other game examples of a fighter/mage class other than the bladesinger in prior editions. It wasn't until Pathfinder introduced the Magus and 4e gave you the variety of classes, that we had more to work with for games. [/QUOTE]
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