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<blockquote data-quote="Shardstone" data-source="post: 8660603" data-attributes="member: 6807784">Sorry man, and don't take this the wrong way because I really enjoy reading your posts and your opinions (not being sarcastic), but this post is really a symptom of white room theory crafting.You are someone who isn't new to the game. I think you've played more then 1 edition, might even played before I was born. I think this gives you a lot of biases that makes it hard for you to understand the new player perspective.Not a single thing you wrote is a problem with the stat block. Not a single thing in this post makes Vecna confusing, or underperform, unless you're in a white room situation. The thing is, even though I know WotC half-asses everything and don't like it, the name of 5th Edition is all about making things your own. They give you a streamlined template and literally tell you that you have a magic item that can change anything on the template that you want with literally any magical effect that you could imagine. The streamlined template means even as a noob DM I could pick up Vecna and run him and have a fun challenge. Then they give experienced DMs a way to make the encounter more complex by giving you the Book of Vile Darkness and a literal blank check to do whatever you want. Noobs have a lot of issues running the old spellcasters. This new one is easier. I'm new to the game, not even a decade playing, and this spell block is easier to grok, understand, and use.For the love of god, I wish the people on Enworld would stop acting like the new player experience is something they understand. Sometimes, you guys are so in your own heads with all the past D&amp;D you've played, that you really just lose the ability to comprehend what the game is like for those of us who haven't played since 6000 BC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shardstone, post: 8660603, member: 6807784"] Sorry man, and don't take this the wrong way because I really enjoy reading your posts and your opinions (not being sarcastic), but this post is really a symptom of white room theory crafting. You are someone who isn't new to the game. I think you've played more then 1 edition, might even played before I was born. I think this gives you a lot of biases that makes it hard for you to understand the new player perspective. Not a single thing you wrote is a problem with the stat block. Not a single thing in this post makes Vecna confusing, or underperform, unless you're in a white room situation. The thing is, even though I know WotC half-asses everything and don't like it, the name of 5th Edition is all about making things your own. They give you a streamlined template and literally tell you that you have a magic item that can change anything on the template that you want with literally any magical effect that you could imagine. The streamlined template means even as a noob DM I could pick up Vecna and run him and have a fun challenge. Then they give experienced DMs a way to make the encounter more complex by giving you the Book of Vile Darkness and a literal blank check to do whatever you want. Noobs have a lot of issues running the old spellcasters. This new one is easier. I'm new to the game, not even a decade playing, and this spell block is easier to grok, understand, and use. For the love of god, I wish the people on Enworld would stop acting like the new player experience is something they understand. Sometimes, you guys are so in your own heads with all the past D&D you've played, that you really just lose the ability to comprehend what the game is like for those of us who haven't played since 6000 BC. [/QUOTE]

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