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<blockquote data-quote="SkidAce" data-source="post: 8661193" data-attributes="member: 7706">I hear your point...and I have been around since 6000 BC.However, I dont think its as clear cut as noobs versus grognards.&nbsp; Seen and assisted four new players take up the DM role since 5e came out.&nbsp; They never mentioned any issues with old spellcasters.Some parts of this revised stat black make sense, particularly monsters, npcs, creatures with innate abilities that &quot;act&quot; like spells.&nbsp; This clarifies and smooths things out a bit.&nbsp; Kinda elegant, which IMO, is a word I'vd used for 5e since it came out.But when your creature/monster is presumably a similar spellcaster to others in the world (maybe they went to the same Wizard School as one of the PCs, you kinda expect them to act similarly. (Not identical)Having &quot;casts as a X level spellcaster&quot;* somewhere, anywhere in the stats would be a simple enough change and good enough for me. It shows and guides me to an understanding of the creatures role.&nbsp; A starting point, cause I know I can change anything I need or want to.I did after all create giant rats in 1st edition that could spit poisoned teeth at characters from 30 feet away.&nbsp; Hehe.* I will probably use 2/3rds of CR as spellcaster level for my purposes, from what I vaguely remember, thats what it kinda came out to be when I did npc research.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SkidAce, post: 8661193, member: 7706"] I hear your point...and I have been around since 6000 BC. However, I dont think its as clear cut as noobs versus grognards. Seen and assisted four new players take up the DM role since 5e came out. They never mentioned any issues with old spellcasters. Some parts of this revised stat black make sense, particularly monsters, npcs, creatures with innate abilities that "act" like spells. This clarifies and smooths things out a bit. Kinda elegant, which IMO, is a word I'vd used for 5e since it came out. But when your creature/monster is presumably a similar spellcaster to others in the world (maybe they went to the same Wizard School as one of the PCs, you kinda expect them to act similarly. (Not identical) Having "casts as a X level spellcaster"* somewhere, anywhere in the stats would be a simple enough change and good enough for me. It shows and guides me to an understanding of the creatures role. A starting point, cause I know I can change anything I need or want to. I did after all create giant rats in 1st edition that could spit poisoned teeth at characters from 30 feet away. Hehe. * I will probably use 2/3rds of CR as spellcaster level for my purposes, from what I vaguely remember, thats what it kinda came out to be when I did npc research. [/QUOTE]

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