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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8661320" data-attributes="member: 22779">The simulationists really don't have any point and never have in 5e.&nbsp; That's the whole thing in a nutshell.&nbsp; 5e has never even pretended to serve as a physics engine style game.&nbsp; It's never come close to that.&nbsp; Ten years of supplements, not a single one even remotely hinting at being this kind of simulation game and we're just now hearing about how the game is changing?&nbsp; Sorry folks, you lost this argument at the tail end of 3e.&nbsp; 5e most definitely has never been the game for this despite pretenses to the contrary.And another thing.&nbsp; Why is it always &quot;a lot of people&quot;?&nbsp; Why not just speak for yourself and your preferences?&nbsp; Why the appeal to popularity?&nbsp; How does that help your argument?&nbsp; You play D&amp;D this way, and well, that's fine.&nbsp; You do you.&nbsp; But, pretending that somehow there is this nebulous &quot;group&quot; of like minded people doesn't actually mean anything.&nbsp; My imaginary group of people is just as big as your imaginary group of people.&nbsp; Guess we're at an impasse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8661320, member: 22779"] The simulationists really don't have any point and never have in 5e. That's the whole thing in a nutshell. 5e has never even pretended to serve as a physics engine style game. It's never come close to that. Ten years of supplements, not a single one even remotely hinting at being this kind of simulation game and we're just now hearing about how the game is changing? Sorry folks, you lost this argument at the tail end of 3e. 5e most definitely has never been the game for this despite pretenses to the contrary. And another thing. Why is it always "a lot of people"? Why not just speak for yourself and your preferences? Why the appeal to popularity? How does that help your argument? You play D&D this way, and well, that's fine. You do you. But, pretending that somehow there is this nebulous "group" of like minded people doesn't actually mean anything. My imaginary group of people is just as big as your imaginary group of people. Guess we're at an impasse. [/QUOTE]

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