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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8666856" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, in the case of our Deathlock Mastermind, what have I added?&nbsp; It's a warlock, casts as a warlock, and casts warlock spells.&nbsp; So, it could have invocations, right?&nbsp; Now, the stat-block does not list any invocations for our Deathlock.&nbsp; Nor, does it mention what kind of pact it has either, which also impacts what abilities this monster has.&nbsp; Neither are mentioned in the stat block though, so, does it have them or not?&nbsp; I'd say a pretty reasonable reading would be to say that they had invocations, but, since the invocations aren't really going to come up that often (typically), they are just left in the background until needed.&nbsp; Which means, poof, if I need my Deathlock to turn invisible, I give him that invocation that lets him turn invisible in low light.&nbsp; Now, am I going to do this every time?&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; Am I going to do this specifically to take away player agency or counter their tactics?&nbsp; Probably not.&nbsp; But, if there's some reason that I need that Deathlock to be invisible, I can do it.So, in what way am I fudging?&nbsp; Oh, and let's not forget, that our Deathlock Mastermind also doesn't list pact spells either.&nbsp; So, we've got about 10-14 spells that aren't listed in the stat block that folks were holding up as a fantastic example of how the game makes caster stat blocks.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />&nbsp; It's listing half the spells it should have, and that's supposed to be fantastic game design.&nbsp; But, apparently, reducing the lich's spell list to half is very bad game design.&nbsp; Color me a bit confused here.&nbsp; Which is it?&nbsp; NPC's should follow PC rules or not?&nbsp; Unless they're non-casters of course.&nbsp; In that case, anything goes and we don't have to worry about it at all.&nbsp; But, in any case, how is adding in elements that the NPC has by the rules, fudging?&nbsp; I'm not giving this NPC some made up power that it couldn't have if it was a PC.&nbsp; I'm straight up following the rules.&nbsp; Since when is straight up following the rules fudging?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8666856, member: 22779"] But, in the case of our Deathlock Mastermind, what have I added? It's a warlock, casts as a warlock, and casts warlock spells. So, it could have invocations, right? Now, the stat-block does not list any invocations for our Deathlock. Nor, does it mention what kind of pact it has either, which also impacts what abilities this monster has. Neither are mentioned in the stat block though, so, does it have them or not? I'd say a pretty reasonable reading would be to say that they had invocations, but, since the invocations aren't really going to come up that often (typically), they are just left in the background until needed. Which means, poof, if I need my Deathlock to turn invisible, I give him that invocation that lets him turn invisible in low light. Now, am I going to do this every time? Nope. Am I going to do this specifically to take away player agency or counter their tactics? Probably not. But, if there's some reason that I need that Deathlock to be invisible, I can do it. So, in what way am I fudging? Oh, and let's not forget, that our Deathlock Mastermind also doesn't list pact spells either. So, we've got about 10-14 spells that aren't listed in the stat block that folks were holding up as a fantastic example of how the game makes caster stat blocks. :erm: It's listing half the spells it should have, and that's supposed to be fantastic game design. But, apparently, reducing the lich's spell list to half is very bad game design. Color me a bit confused here. Which is it? NPC's should follow PC rules or not? Unless they're non-casters of course. In that case, anything goes and we don't have to worry about it at all. But, in any case, how is adding in elements that the NPC has by the rules, fudging? I'm not giving this NPC some made up power that it couldn't have if it was a PC. I'm straight up following the rules. Since when is straight up following the rules fudging? [/QUOTE]

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