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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 1685498" data-attributes="member: 505">Both were pretty good.  I never warmed to Justice League.  There were too many problems for me on that series.  Powers would fluctuate wildly between (or even within) episodes (the Flash can race around the world in 2 seconds but can't catch a truck), and endings seemed tacked on at the last minute without much logic (Hawkgirl knocks back a "planet destroying" laser with her mace or Luthor's anti-superpower ray).  This episode seemed like a step up.  The climax at least made sense (although [SPOILER]you have to wonder how many of those scientists were executed for creating an "ultimate weapon" that can be stopped by a guy with a bow and arrow[/SPOILER]).   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Hopefully, the smaller teams and rotating cast will keep things fresh.  Besides, I've always been more of a fan of third and fourth string heroes than the big guns.  I can't wait for the Bwana Beast episode!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> And I really, really, really want to see Vixen.  I liked the redesign.  Last time I saw her in the comics, she was wearing an ugly purple jumpsuit.  Nemesis!  I couldn't think of that guy's name!  He seems kind of an odd choice since, iirc, he was a secret agent.Also, I spotted Orion, Hourman, Takion, and the original Crimson Avenger (you can only see the head of someone wearing a red mask and a grey fedora with a red band on it).   The music sucked.  It sounded like they were going for Queen's Flash Gordon soundtrack.  It was good when Queen did it, but it was terrible here. I chopped up your post to address a couple of points:Don't forget Whoopie Goldberg.  She came in part way through the series.  Even though she wasn't a member of the crew, she was in a lot of episodes.Granted, you had the black Vulcan on Voyager (I never watched the show, so I don't know his name), but there was nother wrong with Capt. Sisko, Jake Sisko, Cassidy Yates, or Uhura.  I'm not sure if there are any black characters on Enterprise since I don't get the channels that carry it.And, sad to say, there's probably more than twice the black actors on ST than Latino, Native American, and Asians combined.  But Storm's a mutant, too.  Toad, Wolverine, Beast (either version), and Nightcrawler don't look like typical white people, either.  She shouldn't be held to a different standard.Also, don't forget that Storm was one of the few X-Men of the time who didn't wear a mask.  I can only think of Colossus and Nightcrawler.  They both have a distinctive look, and I think the same thought processes went into creating Storm.But what do I know?  I've always liked mohawk Storm, myself.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  I have to disagree with certain parts of what you said.  I think you're reading too much into GL's green eyes.  A number of white heroes have glowing eyes or fiery hair or such things.Plus, don't forget Mr. Terrific and Vixen were there and they look physically "normal".  True, Terrific's mask made his eyes look red, but then the Flash's and Batman's make their's look white. OTOH, we do need more black comic heroes.  The problem is that when Marvel or DC try to do that, they end up screwing it up.  They'll decide that they want a comic about a 15 yr old black kid from the city and hire John Byrne, Peter David, or some other 50 yr old white guy to write it (most likely someone from Canada or England).  They need young, black writers.To get a greater black audience, you need a black comic hero.  To write the comic, you need a black writer.  To get a writer, you need to pull from the black audience.  That would be the same black audience you're trying to get in the first place.  It's a vicious circle.  Sometimes you get someone in the company who's "socially conscious" and wants to launch a black character.  The problem with that is you end up with them creating characters who wear, as you put it, ethnic badges.  They're there to be the black guy (or Asian guy or Native American guy).  For exasmple, how many black characters have "Black" in their name?  Take a look at Super Friends.  You've got the black guy called Black Vulcan, the Japanese Samurai, the Native American Apache Chief, and the Latino El Dorado.  One guy's wearing buck skins and a loin cloth and another is named after a city of gold!  "I'm El Dorado and this is my sidekick, Lake Titicaca."  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> Blade is probably the best chance to bring in young black readers.  However, how many people actually know he was a comic book character?  And Marvel dropped the ball on that with their initial comic adaption.  It didn't have a climax.  It actually ended with a "How will it end?  Go see the movie!".  I can't see very many readers being draw into collecting with that.   :\ To a certain degree, Marvel & DC will be "damned if they do, damned if they don't" with black characters.  If they create a hero who likes rap and basketball, they are accussed of racist stereotyping.  If they do a comic about a guy from the suburbs who's a nerd, they are accused of creating a white character and calling him black.  "You're a credit to your people."  That was great.  I love the look GL gives him.   <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Was anything said in the episode they went back to WW2?  If there wasn't, that would be strange.  Of course, it was strange that they did a WW2 episode without any direct Nazi references.   Of course, in that relationship, I don't think people will notice the race issue so much as the fact that she looks like one of those winged aliens that conquered the Earth some time back.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> And, in Batman Beyond, Terry (the new Batman) was dating an Asian girl.  Also, iirc, Barbara "Batgirl" Gordon was married to a black man.  Plus, in the direct-to video, Mystery Of The Batwoman, Batman was dating a black woman.There have been other, minor, interracial relationships in other cartoons like Codename: Kids Next Door.  In that one, there's a running gag dealing with Number Two having a crush on the older sister of Number Five, Cree.  In one episode, he got turned into a teenager and went on a date with her.  In the end, she was revealed to be an agent working for the "evil" adults.  Number Five likes to rub Cree's nose in the fact that she dated a "stupid kid".</blockquote>

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