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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7847996" data-attributes="member: 996">Yeah, that doesn't mean much when it comes to modeling a character concept.&nbsp; In 5e the fighter is less locked-in to heavy armor and str-based combat styles, even less so than 3e, and in both a knife-fighter Fighter was at hypothetically least possible.&nbsp; Thanks to iterative attacks, quickdraw, rapid shot &amp; TWF feats, you could get a whole lotta stabbing in with a 3e knife-fighting fighter (or fighter/ranger or fighter/ranger/rogue if you wanted some SA), melee or thrown, and the archetype was readily accessible from launch.&nbsp; In 4e, the Rogue was locked into dex-based fighting styles, particularly good with the dagger, and, in addition to SA 1/round (or turn), could get a lot of daggers in the air via a few crazy powers (and a whole lotta daggers &amp; quickdraw - or just a magic dagger), so it did the archetype easily, by itself, out the box.&nbsp; In 5e, though, the rogue is locked out of multiple attacks, so, while he can stab you in the back, he can't cover the archetype - so the concept falls back to the fighter, where it has just now become viable. Expect to see more of it, it can be pretty fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7847996, member: 996"] Yeah, that doesn't mean much when it comes to modeling a character concept. In 5e the fighter is less locked-in to heavy armor and str-based combat styles, even less so than 3e, and in both a knife-fighter Fighter was at hypothetically least possible. Thanks to iterative attacks, quickdraw, rapid shot & TWF feats, you could get a whole lotta stabbing in with a 3e knife-fighting fighter (or fighter/ranger or fighter/ranger/rogue if you wanted some SA), melee or thrown, and the archetype was readily accessible from launch. In 4e, the Rogue was locked into dex-based fighting styles, particularly good with the dagger, and, in addition to SA 1/round (or turn), could get a [I]lot[/I] of daggers in the air via a few crazy powers (and a whole lotta daggers & quickdraw - or just a magic dagger), so it did the archetype easily, by itself, out the box. In 5e, though, the rogue is locked out of multiple attacks, so, while he can stab you in the back, he can't cover the archetype - so the concept falls back to the fighter, where it has just now become viable. Expect to see more of it, it can be pretty fun. [/QUOTE]

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